# The world as it is

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 16, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638 "2012-08-16T01:51:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638/21 "2012-08-16T19:52:03Z")

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> [@Demilade](#):
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> is it possible that all this freedom that we currently have become the end of us?

I think it is more likely all your base are belong to us.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638/22 "2012-08-16T21:29:57Z")

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This is being treated more as a poll than a debate. (since we do not have an explicit joke forum), I am moving this thread to IMHO.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638/23 "2012-08-16T22:44:25Z")

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Yes, in fact I believe that the mix of freedoms we enjoy is unsustainable.

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**Author:** ![mmmbeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecb155/32.png) [@mmmbeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mmmbeer)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638/24 "2012-08-17T02:37:54Z")

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The government regulates practically every facet of our lives and you people are worried about TOO MUCH freedom? My response to the question would be NO as those who came before us who had much MORE freedom than we do and we are now here. Therefore it won’t “become the end of us”. QED

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638/25 "2012-08-17T14:14:58Z")

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> [@greenslime1951](#):
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> If you can’t see the obvious causal link between freedom, the modern liberal welfare state, genocide, and zombification, then you are obviously a bleeding-pancreas liberal and should be sat upon by Rush Limbaugh.

I would rather think the obvious link would be the campaign to dumb down American voters, through bad education, the leashing of the free press, and the creation of actual disinformation stations, like FOX.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638/26 "2012-08-19T14:11:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Yes.

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> NO!

> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Maybe!

Ask again later!

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**Author:** ![Crab\_Rangoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Crab\_Rangoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crab_Rangoon)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-as-it-is/631638/27 "2012-08-19T15:35:02Z")

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> [@Demilade](#):
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> is it possible that all this freedom that we currently have become the end of us?

Who is this “we” you are referring to (kemosabe)? It may be that different locations on this planet enjoy different levels of freedom. That’s just my guess.

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