# The world laughs at Trump

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 26, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930 "2018-09-26T05:43:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/41 "2018-09-27T06:03:11Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Please, do explain why.

Because the UN is a bunch of socialistic anti-American whiners who hate the US with a burning passion, and resent us for our freedom and our successful lifestyle. They wish for nothing more than to destroy us and appropriate our wealth for their own evil purposes. The more that they disapprove of us and our President, the happier I am. President Trump is the first POTUS in a generation to have the balls to say that out loud.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/42 "2018-09-27T06:15:01Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Because the UN is a bunch of socialistic anti-American whiners who hate the US with a burning passion, and resent us for our freedom and our successful lifestyle. They wish for nothing more than to destroy us and appropriate our wealth for their own evil purposes. The more that they disapprove of us and our President, the happier I am. President Trump is the first POTUS in a generation to have the balls to say that out loud.

You really believe all that, huh? Do you have cites, by chance? Or at least point me in the direction of some place that has helped convince you of these feeling, if not actual, factual hardcore cites.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/43 "2018-09-27T06:21:29Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> You really believe all that, huh? Do you have cites, by chance? Or at least point me in the direction of some place that has helped convince you of these feeling, if not actual, factual hardcore cites.

You want CITES for my opinion? How does that work, exactly?

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/44 "2018-09-27T06:23:56Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Because the UN is a bunch of socialistic anti-American whiners who hate the US with a burning passion, and resent us for our freedom and our successful lifestyle. They wish for nothing more than to destroy us and appropriate our wealth for their own evil purposes. The more that they disapprove of us and our President, the happier I am. President Trump is the first POTUS in a generation to have the balls to say that out loud.

This is not true. They disapprove of you because you’re loud and sweaty, and because you wear socks with your sandals.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/45 "2018-09-27T06:25:29Z")

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Well, you didn’t say “I THINK the un is a bunch of…” blah blah blah. You said “the un IS a bunch of…” blah blah blah. But I figured you didn’t have any anyway, which why I asked in the 2nd part of my post to at least point me in the direction of things that helped you formulate said opinion.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/46 "2018-09-27T06:28:10Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> You want CITES for my opinion? How does that work, exactly?

Well, you claimed to know what other countries thought and wanted and wanted to do and why:

> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Because the UN is a bunch of socialistic anti-American whiners **who hate the US with a burning passion, and resent us for our freedom and our successful lifestyle. They wish for nothing more than to destroy us and appropriate our wealth for their own evil purposes.**

How do you know these things? Where did you read them? We want to read them too.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/47 "2018-09-27T06:28:48Z")

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> [@RobDog](#):
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> This is not true. They disapprove of you because you’re loud and sweaty, and because you wear socks with your sandals.

I strenuously protest this post. I do not wear sandals.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/48 "2018-09-27T06:29:54Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Well, you didn’t say “I THINK the un is a bunch of…” blah blah blah. You said “the un IS a bunch of…” blah blah blah. But I figured you didn’t have any anyway, which why I asked in the 2nd part of my post to at least point me in the direction of things that helped you formulate said opinion.

I’m sure your mother loves you. She, at least, pretty much has to.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/49 "2018-09-27T06:30:28Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Because the UN is a bunch of socialistic anti-American whiners who hate the US with a burning passion, and resent us for our freedom and our successful lifestyle.

31st for life expectancy  
33rd for health care coverage  
15th for education  
32nd for infant mortality.

But sure, we hate your succesful lifestyles.

And it’s funny you mention freedom, because one of the few charts the USA comes out top on is incarceration rates.

But this is the Trump era, so USA! USA! USA! You’re number 1, and everyone is just taking the piss out of the cheeto hued one because we’re jealous.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/50 "2018-09-27T06:32:40Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Well, you claimed to know what other countries thought and wanted and wanted to do and why:How do you know these things? Where did you read them? We want to read them too.

It’s called an opinion, and it is based on logical thought. You might want to try it some time.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/51 "2018-09-27T06:33:41Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I’m sure your mother loves you. She, at least, pretty much has to.

Cites!

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/52 "2018-09-27T06:36:57Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> 31st for life expectancy  
> 33rd for health care coverage  
> 15th for education  
> 32nd for infant mortality.
> 
> But sure, we hate your succesful lifestyles.
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> And it’s funny you mention freedom, because one of the few charts the USA comes out top on is incarceration rates.
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> But this is the Trump era, so USA! USA! USA! You’re number 1, and everyone is just taking the piss out of the cheeto hued one because we’re jealous.

So, I assume from your post that you hate the USA. That’s cool. I’d probably hate the shithole where you live, so we’re even.

Do you live here? Feel free to leave if you don’t like it.

Do you live somewhere else? Feel free to stay there.

I don’t see a problem here.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/53 "2018-09-27T06:39:07Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> It’s called an opinion, and it is based on logical thought. You might want to try it some time.

Tell you what, let’s try a little logic experiment. I put forward premise 1:

1. People are laughing at Trump because he made a statement that is so clearly false that they found it funny.

Could you put forward your logical thought on just why everyone is laughing at him because they all hate the US, preferably explaining just why this includes your oldest allies.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/54 "2018-09-27T06:43:13Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> So, I assume from your post that you hate the USA. That’s cool. I’d probably hate the shithole where you live, so we’re even.
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> Do you live here? Feel free to leave if you don’t like it.
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> Do you live somewhere else? Feel free to stay there.
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> I don’t see a problem here.

In order of the assumptions you make:

1. You assume I hate the USA. This is false.
2. You assume I live in a shithole, without any idea where I live. This is pure conjecture.
3. You assume you can tell me where I should live, when you’ve got no influence or say on that whatsoever.

On the basis that you seem incredibly keen on conjecture and assumptions, as well as trying (failing) to tell people what they should do, can I infer that you’re a Trump voter. The dislike for checking facts would certainly suggest so.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/55 "2018-09-27T06:44:32Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> Tell you what, let’s try a little logic experiment. I put forward premise 1:
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> 1. People are laughing at Trump because he made a statement that is so clearly false that they found it funny.
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> Could you put forward your logical thought on just why everyone is laughing at him because they all hate the US, preferably explaining just why this includes your oldest allies.

I assume they are laughing because they found his statements funny. Is that so hard to understand?

Now, I’ll ask you a question: why should I give a rat’s ass what some dudes from some other country think? I live in the USA, and I trust my POTUS to look out for MY interests. Which do NOT include making people from other countries happy. They can suck eggs. As long as President Trump has my interests at heart, which he appears to be doing, I don’t give a crap what anyone from other countries think.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/56 "2018-09-27T06:47:02Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I don’t give a crap what anyone from other countries think.

You _really_ seem to though.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/57 "2018-09-27T06:48:30Z")

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If other countries aren’t happy, for whatever reason, can you imagine how that might affect the usa?

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/58 "2018-09-27T06:48:33Z")

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> [@Isamu](#):
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> You _really_ seem to though.

You think so? Please explain.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/59 "2018-09-27T06:50:23Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> If other countries aren’t happy, for whatever reason, can you imagine how that might affect the usa?

If we were a bunch of pussies, sure. But now that Obama is gone, no, I don’t think so.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/60 "2018-09-27T06:55:03Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> I assume they are laughing because they found his statements funny. Is that so hard to understand?
> 
> Now, I’ll ask you a question: why should I give a rat’s ass what some dudes from some other country think? I live in the USA, and I trust my POTUS to look out for MY interests. Which do NOT include making people from other countries happy. They can suck eggs. As long as President Trump has my interests at heart, which he appears to be doing, I don’t give a crap what anyone from other countries think.

Splendid, so we both agree with the premise I put forward. Good stuff, glad we’ve got that cleared up, and it has nothing to do with the whole “they all hate our success and freedom” hypothesis you started with.

So, let’s move onto your new claim. If you don’t “give a rat’s ass” about the opinions expressed by other nations about the POTUS or the USA, can I ask why you’ve now posted ten times already in a post dedicated to that topic? Or indeed why you were the one who brought up the whole issue of what other countries think about the USA?

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