# The world laughs at Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 26, 2018, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930 "2018-09-26T05:43:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/61 "2018-09-27T06:56:17Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > If we were a bunch of pussies, sure. But now that Obama is gone, no, I don’t think so. Your lack of an imagination reveals a lot. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/62 "2018-09-27T07:58:10Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Because the UN is a bunch of socialistic anti-American whiners who hate the US with a burning passion, and resent us for our freedom and our successful lifestyle. They wish for nothing more than to destroy us and appropriate our wealth for their own evil purposes. The more that they disapprove of us and our President, the happier I am. President Trump is the first POTUS in a generation to have the balls to say that out loud. Actually the UN is nothing more or less than an organized representation of all the countries in the world. Your hostility to the entire world is rather bizarre, and even stranger is that you think all these countries hate the US because they’re jealous of it, since as **Gary Kumquat** alludes to in post #49, the US trails most other first-world nations in the important measures of quality of life, like outcomes in health care and education, and a peaceful crime-free society. As for “resenting us for our freedom”, that’s another bit of unintentional hilarity right of the Bush-era neocon delusions. According to the [Human Freedom Index](https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index) published by the libertarian Cato Institute and other conservative think tanks, the US ranks 17th in the world in personal freedom, far behind countries like Switzerland, New Zealand, Ireland, Australia, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, the United Kingdom, Canada, Sweden, and others. This is a country where major federal agencies like the NSA and the FBI spy on its own citizens, often illegally. A country with the highest incarceration rate in the world. A country where citizens distrust their own government so much that – uniquely in the first world – universal health care has not been achieved and may never be, because citizens don’t trust their own government to run health insurance or anything else. A country where citizens distrust their own government so much that they have taken it upon themselves to become the most heavily armed first-world nation on the planet, and regularly shoot each other at an alarming rate. Yeah, I bet other advanced nations are jealous as hell! > [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I assume they are laughing because they found his statements funny. Is that so hard to understand? Quite true. And the thing that was so funny was Trump’s shameless bragging that he was, like, the bestest president ever. Most of the world, like most Americans, have been laughing, too, as they would at most of your claims in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/63 "2018-09-27T08:09:42Z")
I just read the speach - actually pretty good (although not eloquent). He made his overall point very clear that from now on it is America for Americans. Now that is a message that appeals to many many people (not just Americans, there are plenty of Germans who think the same way about Germany, for example, and now their path is made a bit clearer perhaps). The only question is in whether or not what he is doing will actually be better for Americans in the long term. We will see I guess, but a good speech. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/64 "2018-09-27T08:20:44Z")
It’s always been Americans for Americans. America first. I’m agree it should be. But I disagree completely with America only. It’s good for America to help out. It good for everyone to help out everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/65 "2018-09-27T08:27:07Z")
Yep. I agree. And he drew a good distinction between helping your friends but not helping your non-friends. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/66 "2018-09-27T08:46:41Z")
Problem being, he doesn’t know the difference between a friend, a bootlicker and someone who seems to be bending down to lick your boot while actually aiming to crotchbutt you. Even when he manages to put sounds in a way that makes sense by itself, its coming from someone who’s less reliable than a dude with a pea, three nut shells and a card table turns it into a (bitter) joke. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/67 "2018-09-27T11:49:09Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Because the UN is a bunch of socialistic anti-American whiners who hate the US with a burning passion, and resent us for our freedom and our successful lifestyle. As distinct from a eclectic block of centre left/centre right civil societies who are relaxed and comfortable about their own freedoms, consider the much vaunted merkin lifestyl an ill-affordable indulgence promoted by the same PR firm you had in the '50s and that the UN is rubber stamp of US foreign policy and domestic interests bought & paid for by aging white christian fundamentalists with a profound insecurity complex. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/68 "2018-09-27T12:26:45Z")
Not directly related, but a there’s a good article in the Guardian today about how Trump screwed up the transition when he became president. [‘This guy doesn’t know anything’: the inside story of Trump’s shambolic transition team](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/sep/27/this-guy-doesnt-know-anything-the-inside-story-of-trumps-shambolic-transition-team) tl;dr Trump refused to prepare for a transition at all. What preparation work Chis Christie did was chucked out, and totally unsuitable people were put in, when positions were filled at all. > [@](#): > > The first time Trump paid attention to any of this was when he read about it in the newspaper. The story revealed that Trump’s very own transition team had raised several million dollars to pay the staff. The moment he saw it, Trump called Steve Bannon, the chief executive of his campaign, from his office on the 26th floor of Trump Tower, and told him to come immediately to his residence, many floors above. Bannon stepped off the elevator to find Christie seated on a sofa, being hollered at. Trump was apoplectic, yelling: _You’re stealing my money! You’re stealing my fucking money! What the fuck is this?_ > > Seeing Bannon, Trump turned on him and screamed: _Why are you letting him steal my fucking money?_ Bannon and Christie together set out to explain to Trump federal law. Months before the election, the law said, the nominees of the two major parties were expected to prepare to take control of the government. The government supplied them with office space in downtown DC, along with computers and rubbish bins and so on, but the campaigns paid their people. To which Trump replied:\* Fuck the law. I don’t give a fuck about the law. I want my fucking money.\* Bannon and Christie tried to explain that Trump couldn’t have both his money and a transition. > > _Shut it down_, said Trump. _Shut down the transition._ > > Here Christie and Bannon parted ways. Neither thought it was a good idea to shut down the transition, but each had his own misgivings. Christie thought that Trump had little chance of running the government without a formal transition. Bannon wasn’t so sure if Trump would ever get his mind around running the federal government; he just thought it would look bad if Trump didn’t at least seem to prepare. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/69 "2018-09-27T14:03:28Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I live in the USA, and I trust my POTUS to look out for MY interests. Which do NOT include making people from other countries happy. They can suck eggs. As long as President Trump has my interests at heart, which he appears to be doing, I don’t give a crap what anyone from other countries think. Are you Russian? I had no idea ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/70 "2018-09-27T15:04:32Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > So, I assume from your post that you hate the USA. That’s cool. I’d probably hate the shithole where you live, so we’re even. > > Do you live here? Feel free to leave if you don’t like it. > > Do you live somewhere else? Feel free to stay there. > > I don’t see a problem here. So if someone points out America has flaws, your immediate assumption is that they must live in a shithole and hate America? Are those really the only terms in which you see the world? Is it impossible for you to conceive that someone might actually want to solve problems and improve America’s quality of life? If a mechanic says your car is broken, does that mean he hates your car? If a doctor says you have an illness, does that mean the doctor hates you? Or does it mean they want to identify the problem so that they can solve it? Do you react with rage every time someone points out a weakness or an error? (Who am I kidding, of course you do. You can’t imagine a world in which you aren’t surrounded by enemies.) ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/71 "2018-09-27T16:50:32Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I live in the USA, and I trust my POTUS to look out for MY interests… As long as President Trump has my interests at heart, which he appears to be doing, I don’t give a crap what anyone from other countries think. That’s quite astonishing that someone actually believes this. I think Trumps acts only in his best self interest. But I’ll bite, what actions had Trump taken that had benefited you? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/72 "2018-09-27T17:23:21Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I assume they are laughing because they found his statements funny. Is that so hard to understand? > > Now, I’ll ask you a question: why should I give a rat’s ass what some dudes from some other country think? I live in the USA, and I trust my POTUS to look out for MY interests. Which do NOT include making people from other countries happy. They can suck eggs. As long as President Trump has my interests at heart, which he appears to be doing, I don’t give a crap what anyone from other countries think. ‘Dude’, trump cares about one thing and one thing only. He could care less about your interests. Oh, if you’re a racist (I’m not claiming YOU are), he will be supporting you because he happens to be a racist. But it’s only a means to an end. That end being finding any group that supports him. Russians (as a patsy), racists, misogynists or whom ever he thinks he can use. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/73 "2018-09-28T05:40:55Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Right now he’s already trying to claim “I meant to do that”. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/y1WDRQ4GsPo/hqdefault.jpg "Trump: UNGA was 'laughing with me,’ not at me") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1WDRQ4GsPo) The mind boggles…, ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/74 "2018-09-28T09:53:07Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > I think Trumps acts only in his best self interest. This. > [@enipla](#): > > ‘Dude’, trump cares about one thing and one thing only. He could care less about your interests. And this. > [@](#): > > That end being finding any group that supports him. Same as most politicians, really. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/75 "2018-09-28T13:23:19Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Because the UN is a bunch of socialistic anti-American whiners who hate the US with a burning passion, and resent us for our freedom and our successful lifestyle. They wish for nothing more than to destroy us and appropriate our wealth for their own evil purposes. The more that they disapprove of us and our President, the happier I am. President Trump is the first POTUS in a generation to have the balls to say that out loud. If this were true, then **every** US President speaking to the UN would be jeered. However Barack Obama was regularly applauded when he gave his speech. (And of course Obama also won a Nobel Prize.) Trump was laughed at because he is a compulsive liar who made ludicrous claims. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/76 "2018-09-28T13:41:30Z")
> [@glee](#): > > If this were true, then **every** US President speaking to the UN would be jeered. > However Barack Obama was regularly applauded when he gave his speech. That’s because Obama is a socialistic anti-American whiner who hates the US with a burning passion. And he was born in Kenya, so he’s one of them. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/77 "2018-09-28T14:09:41Z")
My take is that they laughed at him because of his incredibly tone deaf speech. He boasted about having accomplished so much, but the audience knows better than he that there is precious little there. He got a Supreme Court nomination that was stolen from his predecessor rammed through. He got his fellow thieves in Congress to pass a tax cut for the wealthy. He reneged on a deal with Iran that was working. He publicly took a knee and sucked Vlad Putin’s dick on the world stage. Where are all the accomplishments? Even if he did accomplish a lot (which he didn’t), would this be what you talk about with your peers? Would you say on a first date “do you have any idea how great I am?” The only rational response to that is to laugh in his face and bail at the first opportunity. How in the world are other leaders supposed to take him seriously when all he fucking does is brag about himself and lie about others? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/78 "2018-09-28T14:25:55Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > The more that they disapprove of us and our President, the happier I am. You must be devastated to learn that Trump’s ambassador says that the UN loved Trump’s speech. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/79 "2018-09-28T22:05:59Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > That’s because Obama is a socialistic anti-American whiner who hates the US with a burning passion. And he was born in Kenya, so he’s one of them. I think you forgot to add \. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930/80 "2018-09-28T22:43:46Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > I assume they are laughing because they found his statements funny. Is that so hard to understand? > > Now, I’ll ask you a question: why should I give a rat’s ass what some dudes from some other country think? Because your government is going to have to deal with their governments concerning international matters, and if Trump keeps this up the other kids aren’t going to want to play with you when it comes to things like, say, trade. Or sharing intelligence. This isn’t a Trump business deal. He can’t fuck his opposite numbers like shit, settle out of court and move on to the next sucker. He’s going to have to deal with the countries he insults for as long as he’s the president, and your government is going to have to continue dealing with them after he’s gone. You used to have a number of experienced ambassadors and diplomats to deal with these things, wonder what happened to them. > [@](#): > > I live in the USA, and I trust my POTUS to look out for MY interests. Which do NOT include making people from other countries happy. They can suck eggs. As long as President Trump has my interests at heart, which he appears to be doing, I don’t give a crap what anyone from other countries think. Yeah, but it’s not about you. He’s supposed to look out for your country’s interests. You and your warm fuzzies for Trump could cease to exist tomorrow, that wouldn’t change the fact that Trump is doing your country no favours. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-laughs-at-trump/821930.md?page=5)