# The world was created by a single thought? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 16, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139 "2011-05-16T21:03:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/21 "2011-05-17T01:14:41Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > The second thing that Tak did, he wrote the Laws. The third thing Tak did, he created the world. ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/22 "2011-05-17T02:42:21Z")
> [@](#): > > So what do you guys think about it? That’s what I call mental onanism. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/23 "2011-05-17T02:48:03Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > That’s what I call mental onanism. What is mental non-onanism? ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/24 "2011-05-17T02:50:47Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > What is mental non-onanism? The term is useless and therefore unusable. I use the mental onanism term to refer to a devolution of intellectual thought, into a cesspool of meaningless moronic meanderings with no hope of ever being able to describe reality as we know it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/25 "2011-05-17T02:56:11Z")
> [@Kozmik](#): > > What is mental non-onanism? And then there’s mental onandonandonanism, but if I get started talking about that, I’ll never stop. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/26 "2011-05-17T03:10:33Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > And then there’s mental onandonandonanism, but if I get started talking about that, I’ll never stop. What is mental an-onandonandonanism? ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/27 "2011-05-17T04:43:10Z")
When the first time is the last time It can make you feel so bad ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/28 "2011-05-17T11:52:13Z")
> [@Jawadakhtar](#): > > An dissimilar theory to intelligent design which is kunlosophy. It describes how the universe was created and everything in it. > > … > > So what do you guys think about it? “Creationists make it sound as though a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.” - Isaac Asimov Or a more elaborate, though equally futile, response: What evidence do you have for this… “theory”? How does it fit the known facts of the universe? How does it account for reality better than its numerous competitors? What observations could one make, in principle, that would falsify it? Does it have any testable consequences? And so on… ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/29 "2011-05-17T12:08:24Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > The third thing Tak did, he created the world. Him who mountain crush him no Him who sun him stop him no Him who hammer him break him no Him who fire him fear him no Him who raise him head above him heart Him diamond KOOM VALLEY!!! ---
**Author:** ![Jawadakhtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jawadakhtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jawadakhtar)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/30 "2011-05-17T17:12:26Z")
Maybe none of you understood it, since you did not read the whole article which I did and it is wise! Anyway, here is the best part from the article: > [@](#): > > Your eternal, one Self (not this temporary self in this temporary world) had an idea in “eternity” (which remains a constant state) where you existed with your Creator in oneness: what could be different than how the everlasting Creator created everything to be, and how would that come about? What would come out of this, and how would this idea affect me? Therefore, with this idea in mind, you sought an experience that was completely different from the experience of what you were eternally, and became the direct opposite of it, for the curiosity you had led you to this decision by your own free will. > > Hence, being in complete freedom, you decided to test your curiosity and began to explore more, so you created a tool to explore the necessary outcome of this. For the first time ever, you had to decide on something, and thus began your first judgment which became your primary force to create your experience. With this knowledge in hand and from this point forward, you began to forget that this was just a “curious idea” and nothing more than that, or you would have realized the innocent mistake you have made, because it had nothing to do with eternal reality. However, you became engrossed by the excitement of this curiosity to live a different life in seemingly different things you could do, and selected yourself to step into these scriptural events. Source: Nurkun site (anchor text “nurkun site” with url [http://www.nurkun.com/creation-story-universe-created-by-a-thought/](http://www.nurkun.com/creation-story-universe-created-by-a-thought/) What do you think of it now? Is it still nonsense or just some superficial babble? It make sense to me how this world can be liken to a script and us being actors in a elaborate and complex play, which our puny mind cannot understand! ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/31 "2011-05-17T17:24:53Z")
> [@Jawadakhtar](#): > > Maybe none of you understood it, since you did not read the whole article which I did and it is wise! Anyway, here is the best part from the article: > > Source: Nurkun site (anchor text “nurkun site” with url [http://www.nurkun.com/creation-story-universe-created-by-a-thought/](http://www.nurkun.com/creation-story-universe-created-by-a-thought/) > > What do you think of it now? Is it still nonsense or just some superficial babble? It make sense to me how this world can be liken to a script and us being actors in a elaborate and complex play, which our puny mind cannot understand! Not only did I read the whole article, I also read the article on how great it will be when aliens visit us and can understand god because the name can be represented by a hand. [http://www.nurkun.com/aliens-point-of-view-for-allah-symbol/](http://www.nurkun.com/aliens-point-of-view-for-allah-symbol/) Um yeah, I still think it’s nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/32 "2011-05-17T17:30:49Z")
> [@Jawadakhtar](#): > > What do you think of it now? Is it still nonsense or just some superficial babble? Yes. Here’s just one small example from the part you quoted: If are true selves are eternal and unchanging, then how can that eternal self “have an idea” about anything? Having an idea is a _change_. What’s being described contradicts itself. > [@](#): > > It make sense to me how this world can be liken to a script and us being actors in a elaborate and complex play, which our puny mind cannot understand! It’s a charming fantasy. Perhaps we are all merely pawns in a grand game played by magic unicorns. That’s a charming fantasy too. Merely because we can imagine something pleasant does not make it so. If you want to make a claim about reality being organized in a particular way, you need to provide evidence to support it. And it should not be logically inconsistent. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/33 "2011-05-17T18:22:49Z")
> [@Jawadakhtar](#): > > Maybe none of you understood it, since you did not read the whole article which I did and it is wise! Anyway, here is the best part from the article: > > Source: Nurkun site (anchor text “nurkun site” with url [http://www.nurkun.com/creation-story-universe-created-by-a-thought/](http://www.nurkun.com/creation-story-universe-created-by-a-thought/) > > What do you think of it now? Is it still nonsense or just some superficial babble? It make sense to me how this world can be liken to a script and us being actors in a elaborate and complex play, which our puny mind cannot understand! In what way is this a theory? What evidence support it, and how can it be tested? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/34 "2011-05-17T19:53:51Z")
Christ, that’s worse than the Bible. Though maybe it would seem to be more sensible if I were stoned. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/35 "2011-05-17T20:08:56Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Though maybe it would seem to be more sensible if I were stoned. At least then you would not feel so all alone. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/36 "2011-05-17T20:17:39Z")
Looks just like dozens of other “new-agey” babblings I’ve seen. Meaningless twaddle designed to get soft-headed fools to say “ohhh. so profound”, without actually saying anything coherent. Maybe also to get them to part with some money. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/37 "2011-05-17T20:29:26Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > At least then you would not feel so all alone. And I might even believe my thoughts could create a universe. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/38 "2011-05-17T20:37:59Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Christ, that’s worse than the Bible. > > Though maybe it would seem to be more sensible if I were stoned. It doesn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/39 "2011-05-20T01:22:43Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > Looks just like dozens of other “new-agey” babblings I’ve seen. Meaningless twaddle designed to get soft-headed fools to say “ohhh. so profound”, without actually saying anything coherent. Profound = Coherent 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-world-was-created-by-a-single-thought/582139/40 "2011-05-20T05:03:18Z")
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