# The worst case of agenda pushing yet

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 13, 2001, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405 "2001-09-13T18:27:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/1 "2001-09-13T18:27:24Z")

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I guess it was to be utterly predictable and expected, but that pile of human excrement, Fred Phelps, is of course claiming that Tuesday’s attacks were God’s punishment on America for condoning homosexuality.

I won’t even do the man the favor of linking to his piece of shit site. I can’t even muster up the words to properly condemn this man in a fitting manner. I’m just sickened.

Why couldn’t those planes have flown into him?

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### Author: ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/2 "2001-09-13T18:33:20Z")

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Oh  
My  
God.

I can’t believe this guy is actually spouting this crap. What a FUCK. And like the bulk of the US is “condoning” homosexuality. Yeah, right. That’s why it’s just so EASY to be gay! It’ s a fun lifestyle choice!

[sarcasm ON]  
Esprix, Andygirl, other non-het dopers, you’ve got some 'splainin to do!  
[sarcasm OFF]

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### Author: ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/3 "2001-09-13T18:34:12Z")

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Well, one way to refute the good Reverend Phelps is to note that the planes hit the WTC, and not Greenwich Village or Fire Island. If God wishes to smite us homos, He needs to get some target practice.

Maybe God doesn’t like investment bankers. :rolleyes:

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### Author: ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/4 "2001-09-13T18:40:03Z")

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Nope, according to Freddie God wants to smite the entire nation for supporting and condoning that vile sodomy.

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### Author: ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/5 "2001-09-13T18:41:54Z")

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You know, “hate” is a strong word, and I don’t use it lightly, but I hate this evil fucker. It takes a HUGE effort to drive me to violence, but I swear if I ever see this guy in person I’ll beat the living poo out of him. Jesus Christ, he just never stops.

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### Author: ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/6 "2001-09-13T18:44:14Z")

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You know, “hate” is a strong word, and I don’t use it lightly, but I hate this evil fucker. It takes a HUGE effort to drive me to violence, but I swear if I ever see this guy in person I’ll beat the living poo out of him. Jesus Christ, he just never stops. He’s like the Energizer Bunny of fundamentalist homophobes. But it should surprise no one. He led protests outside the funerals of gay men who were killed because of their sexuality. I hope he rots in hell.

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### Author: ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/7 "2001-09-13T18:46:40Z")

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Didn’t mean to post twice. I edited my post after hitting “submit”, but thought I caught it.

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### Author: ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/8 "2001-09-13T18:48:29Z")

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Y’know, according to one of the other threads in the Pit, there’s speculation that one of the three men who rushed the terrorists on the flight which was downed outside Pittsburgh was gay. In other words, if it weren’t for a homosexual, the White House could have been hit as well.

I hope that when Phelps dies, he is found choked to death on his lover’s cock.  
[Sorry- had to edit that as it was beyond the line. My apologies for slipping, there. -JMCJ]

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/9 "2001-09-13T19:03:48Z")

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In the last few weeks, I have decided that I’m madly in love in with **John Corrado**.  
You want to see disguisting? Behiold, I give you [Fred, the Movie](http://www.fredthemovie.com/index.html).

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### Author: ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/10 "2001-09-13T19:18:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by Arden Ranger \*  
> **In the last few weeks, I have decided that I’m madly in love in with** John Corrado_\*.  
> \*\*

Well, as long as you’re not a man, I’m sure you’ve got Phelps’ approval.  
**John** , I had thought of posting something similar, but thought I might take flak for it. Thanks. That cracked me up.

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### Author: ![Beltane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@Beltane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beltane)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/11 "2001-09-13T19:21:27Z")

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I’m not sure why this upsets me SO MUCH. I am reminded of the thread about wishing death on someone. If there is anyone who fits the bill for me, Phelps is right up there at the top or the list. I have been trying over the past few days to return to my spirtual centers, but this just creates such a black ball of hatred in me that I feel a need to do a purification.

I am really not sure why I have this response. I mean I should certainly have no more anger at him that I do at the extremists who murdered thousand of people. That just doen’t make ANY sense. Maybe it is just a more familiar face to direct anger at, one that is using a sytem of belief akin to the one I grew up in to justify it’s hatred.

Is there ever an end to hatred?

:\*(

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### Author: ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/12 "2001-09-13T19:50:49Z")

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Geez, any hackers, whitehat or blackhat should make his site their first target. Have it link to [http://www.godhatesfundies.com](http://www.godhatesfundies.com) or something. Anyone with those skills, I implore you to strike. No jury would convict you.

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### Author: ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/13 "2001-09-13T20:22:34Z")

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I’ve been waiting for the predictable idiocy to emerge, and I’ve been sort of grimly vindicated to see it, if dismayed at how quickly it’s popped up. Let’s see:

– Attack retribution by God for homosexuality/ abortion/ ‘insert pet fundie cause here’? Check!

– Attack planned and implemented by America/ Republicans /Bush administration to allow it/them/him to gain stature on the world stage? Check!

– Attack product of vast one-world /United Nations /Illuminati conspiracy? Check!

– Attack carried out by aliens a la _Independence Day_? Che- Well, I haven’t actually seen that one yet, but the week is young.

:rolleyes:

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### Author: ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/14 "2001-09-13T20:40:28Z")

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> – Attack carried out by aliens a la Independence Day? Che- Well, I haven’t actually seen that one yet, but the week is young.

That particular idiocy would be refreshing in its scope and vision, at least.

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### Author: ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/15 "2001-09-13T21:20:15Z")

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red\_dragon60, godhatesfundies is a parody site. The Phelps original is godhatesfags.

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### Author: ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/16 "2001-09-13T21:28:40Z")

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The twit did the same thing when the USS Cole was bombed.

Pigfucker.

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### Author: ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/17 "2001-09-13T21:40:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Irishman \*  
> \*\*red\_dragon60, godhatesfundies is a parody site. \*\*

No, it’s not. The name is a parody of Phelps’ site but godhatesfundies is a serious site.

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### Author: ![TheeGrumpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@TheeGrumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheeGrumpy)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/18 "2001-09-13T21:54:13Z")

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Hmm. Assuming the instruments of God’s wrath were Muslim, does that mean Fred Phelps worships Allah?

Dammit. I did not need to hear that man’s name this week.

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### Author: ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/19 "2001-09-13T22:15:36Z")

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John Corrado

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> Y’know, according to one of the other threads in the Pit, there’s speculation that one of the three men who rushed the terrorists on the flight which was downed outside Pittsburgh was gay. In other words, if it weren’t for a homosexual, the White House could have been hit as well.

That [Mark Bingham](http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?2001/09/12/1) was gay is not speculation. The extent of his involvement may never be known, although the flight data recorder has been found (but not yet the cockpit voice recorder).

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> I hope that when Phelps dies, he is found choked to death on his lover’s cock.

No. Thank you, but no. Taking the liberty of speaking for the entire queer community, we have no wish for Phelps ever to have even seen another man naked in the locker room, let alone to be a closet case. The str8s may have him, and they are welcome to him.

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### Author: ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2001, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-case-of-agenda-pushing-yet/81405/20 "2001-09-13T22:24:20Z")

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Ugh, I don’t want him!

I say, let the beastiality folks have 'im. He’s nothing but a beast anyways.

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