# The worst of the worst met their ends with Obama as President **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2016, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027 "2016-11-26T10:59:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/21 "2016-11-26T18:05:10Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > He wasn’t even responsible for bin Laden. That was due to long-term action set in motion by Bush 43. It simply happened on Obama’s watch and he was more than happy to take credit for it. Another cretin heard from. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/22 "2016-11-26T18:08:01Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Do you ever get tired of being stupid and wrong all the time? The sad thing is that he doesn’t believe he’s either stupid or wrong. Unless he’s deliberately trolling. But Hanlon’s Razor suggests he’s just fucking brainwashed. > [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > If my GOP-voting friends are typical, this is exactly why Trump was able to get a majority in the electoral college. The voters drank the orange kool-aid. Laugh all you want, I am not laughing at all. No, I think what really happened was similar to what [Eddie Murphy postulated 30 years ago.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dHgeV9zMCI) As for laughing, it’s definitely more of a “sometimes that’s all you can do” response. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/23 "2016-11-26T18:43:08Z")
Guys, **Clothahump** is an old man who’s suffered a lot of head trauma over the years. He’s simply not capable of thinking his way through an idea anymore. All he can do is look for the helpful color coding and cheer as loudly as he can when he sees the right shade. It mostly works pretty well for him, except that time he was escorted out of the Smurfs movie for yelling at “all the damn democrats” on the screen. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/24 "2016-11-26T19:10:51Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Obama wasn’t responsible for any of their deaths except for bin-Laden. The others either died of natural causes or as a result of revolution within their countries. They died of Obamadiation. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/25 "2016-11-26T22:01:24Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Qaddafi you can put on Obama’s ledger, but yes, I was just noting how **unlucky** the evildoer class has been under Obama’s watch. Yeah, Fidel Castro’s revolution was 57 years ago, it is still the controlling power in Cuba, and Castro himself just died at the age of 90. We sure showed him! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/26 "2016-11-26T22:30:29Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Yeah, Fidel Castro’s revolution was 57 years ago, it is still the controlling power in Cuba, and Castro himself just died at the age of 90. > > We sure showed him! We had a _goooooooooooooooooooooooood_ long-term plan. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/27 "2016-11-27T00:26:37Z")
Trump will probably take credit for Castro dying on his Presidential-Elect watch. Countdown to a new Trump casino in Havana. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/28 "2016-11-27T03:59:46Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trump will probably take credit for Castro dying on his Presidential-Elect watch. Countdown to a new Trump casino in Havana. He _will_ need somewhere to store the money he got from his Deplorables; it could be a lovely off-shore haven. Then again, he never gambles w/ his own money, AND he couldn’t use his stand-by bankruptcy protection so it’s really anyone’s guess. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/29 "2016-11-27T04:04:59Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > I don’t like happenstance spin that helps Republicans, I don’t like happenstance spin that helps Democrats. Communist Castro’s croaking is an example of this, similar to how Idi Amin died during the Bush admin. Neither is any testament to “spreading freedom.” As long as the bastards are dead, that’s all that matters. Still it’s strange that Bin Laden was so hard to catch under W, and then under Obama, he gets whacked. A cynic might think the W admin and the Repubs wanted him around, as a very convenient bogey man. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/30 "2016-11-27T07:07:58Z")
we attempted to poison Castro during the JFK administration. Our slow acting poison finally got him. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/31 "2016-11-27T13:52:47Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > As long as the bastards are dead, that’s all that matters. Still it’s strange that Bin Laden was so hard to catch under W, and then under Obama, he gets whacked. > A cynic might think the W admin and the Repubs wanted him around, as a very convenient bogey man. A single person can be very hard to catch, particularly a guy who knows how to hide out locally. Which is why W was advised at the time not to make the Global War On Terror about getting one guy. But W did so, very publicly and loudly. After a period of years failing to find and get Osama bin Laden, W and his administration quietly gave up on the goal. The goal was still there in the public, but it was a background issue not the focus. Obama took the opposite approach: take the goal seriously, but do so quietly. When they finally got some information on where bin Laden might be, they acted on it. It was a risk, because the intelligence was shaky. Instead of bin Laden it could have been some other scumbag in that compound - a drug dealer or a weapons dealer. If the mission had not gotten bin Laden, it would have been an extremely embarrassing diplomatic incident - a violation of the sovereignty of an allied nation for some low-level criminal. The violation was still there, but since we got bin Laden it was less of an international incident. It’s probably a big deal in Pakistan, but it’s not such a problem for the rest of the world. This is my long way of applying Hanlon’s Razor to the difference between the W and Obama administrations. Oh wait this _is_ The Pit - I think the W administration was evil AND stupid AND incompetent, in contrast to the Obama administration which was smart, savvy, competent, subtle, and mostly good. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/32 "2016-11-29T04:16:00Z")
Yeah … but did Obama have to take out Robin Williams ? ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/33 "2016-11-29T05:24:54Z")
> [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > After a period of years failing to find and get Osama bin Laden, W and his administration quietly gave up on the goal. A few years…how about seven months? From his [March 13, 2002](https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html) press conference: > [@George W. Bush](#): > > Who knows if he’s hiding in some cave or not; we haven’t heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is – really indicates to me people don’t understand the scope of the mission. […] So I don’t know where he is. You know, **I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you.** […] And, again, I don’t know where he is. I – I’ll repeat what I said. \*\*I truly am not that concerned about him. \*\* And, to be frank, I don’t believe for one second that catching bin Laden was _ever_ the primary focus of the GWB Administration. I’ll even go so far as to theorize that they deliberately allowed OBL to escape into Pakistan, so he could Fedex his audiotape recordings (perfectly timed to coincide with elections and holidays) to keep the American public on edge. Like others said, a living boogeyman is ideal for manipulating the public’s fear. And remember those vague “terror alerts” they used to issue every so often, with no concrete details and never any attack (or even arrests preventing an attack)? Ain’t it funny how all that went away when Obama took office? Gotta give mad props for Obama taking out OBL when he did. Not only was it risky as hell (had the mission failed, he could’ve kissed his second term goodbye) but he had to know, and was no doubt told by his advisors, that in the long run, many people in America would’ve forgotten all about it, or twisted the facts to prop up their own political bias. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/34 "2016-11-29T05:28:09Z")
Thank you for providing the details, **buddha\_david**. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/35 "2016-11-29T09:56:43Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > He wasn’t even responsible for bin Laden. That was due to long-term action set in motion by Bush 43. It simply happened on Obama’s watch and he was more than happy to take credit for it. Here you go - timeline of the hunt for bin Laden. (and no - bush didn’t start anything rolling - he obstructed and his cronies ended the search). [https://thinkprogress.org/timeline-the-hunt-for-osama-bin-laden-648fc9347926#.6wg3atyle](https://thinkprogress.org/timeline-the-hunt-for-osama-bin-laden-648fc9347926#.6wg3atyle) ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/36 "2016-11-29T17:28:50Z")
Hillary Clinton ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/37 "2016-11-29T17:46:45Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Hillary Clinton As far as I’ve heard, none of the second-amendment people Trump suggested kill her have done so. Do you have inside information, **WillFarnaby** or are you giving us a heads up on your plans? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/38 "2016-11-29T18:39:24Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Hillary Clinton Ha ha! Remember back during the election when Trump promised to lock up Hillary Clinton or at least prosecute her for her “crimes”? He lied to you. Won’t be happening. You are a sucker. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/39 "2016-11-29T19:00:47Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Our intervention in Libya was a shitshow. It was Obama’s Iraq. Obama called it the biggest mistake of his administration. And there were reports that it was French secret service agents who were involved in tracking down and killing Gaddafi. These aren’t mutually exclusive with what Adher said. While Obama regrets the destabilized power vacuum he left when Gaddafi died, there is no doubt that Nato air power was crucial for the rebel forces to be able to oust him. And whether or not the French were involved in the execution (the sources I’ve seen supporting this seem a bit tin foil hat to me). They wouldn’t have been able to do so Gaddafi was still in power. If Obama had not decided to aid the Libyan rebels, Gaddafi would, for better or worse, very likely still be alive. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027/40 "2016-11-29T19:04:31Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > He wasn’t even responsible for bin Laden. That was due to long-term action set in motion by Bush 43. It simply happened on Obama’s watch and he was more than happy to take credit for it. You’re a child. Except wrinkly and less fun to tickle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-met-their-ends-with-obama-as-president/773027.md?page=3)