# The worst of the worst (SDMB version) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693 "2016-04-20T00:54:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/41 "2016-04-20T15:03:51Z")
I love this list. I’d add Broomstick and the lady who gives Valiums to the yard boy. I can’t remember her name at the moment. Of course the dope is better off with all this crazy. It would be boring if everyone was level-headed and normal. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/42 "2016-04-20T15:18:50Z")
As others have said **Guinistasia** doesn’t belong on the list. Regarding **Bricker** , I’ll take the controversial viewpoint that the board gains something from his presence. He does bring a knowledge of the law, and I’ve had fun at times countering some of his silly sophistry and wordplay. I will grant though that his arguments and refusal to budge get old. I abandoned the voter ID thread long ago as being pointless. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/43 "2016-04-20T15:19:12Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Why should **D’Anconia** budge an inch in that thread? Magee claimed to be 130 years old, which is very unlikely to be true, and to be a former slave, for which the documentation is pretty scanty. You didn’t produce any evidence to overcome the skepticism. Nor did anyone else. The 130 years old claim is unlikely to be true. I produced documentation to show that he was around in 1859. Did you miss that? There’s no shame in admitting you did. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/44 "2016-04-20T15:30:07Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Of course the dope is better off with all this crazy. It would be boring if **everyone** was level-headed and normal. Everyone? Try **anyone**. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/45 "2016-04-20T15:39:26Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Regarding **Bricker** , I’ll take the controversial viewpoint that the board gains something from his presence. He does bring a knowledge of the law, and I’ve had fun at times countering some of his silly sophistry and wordplay. I will grant though that his arguments and refusal to budge get old. I abandoned the voter ID thread long ago as being pointless. **Bricker** reminds me of the late William F. Buckley. Highly intelligent, erudite, and you so wanted to punch his face in… I can get along with most of the posters mentioned, even **adaher** (whom I tend to disagree with on almost everything) shows a certain flair and does bring a counterpoint to the board which I appreciate, but I do have to second **D’Anconia** and **doorhinge** , who cause me dental anguish due to my teeth grinding when reading them. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/46 "2016-04-20T15:44:33Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > What, no\*\* ITR Champion\*\*? He isn’t around a lot anymore but his debate dishonesty still just astounds me. Any thread he starts becomes a trainwreck. He’s a classic concern troll. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/47 "2016-04-20T15:52:59Z")
I like Bricker too. (Which must come as a great relief to him, to be sure). He’s smart, argues logically, and presents a minority point of view well. The clarity he brings on legal matters is pretty valuable. The few times I’ve argued with him he’s been courteous and honest. Outside of debates he’s funny and interesting. Given that there are a group of posters who seem to revel in getting into bad-tempered and insulting spats with him, I’m surprised he keeps his temper as well as he does. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/48 "2016-04-20T16:20:26Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > 1. **SlackerInc**. I’m not sure what it is about this dude but even when he says something I agree with, I want to punch him in his mouth. > [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > **Bricker** reminds me of the late William F. Buckley. Highly intelligent, erudite, and you so wanted to punch his face in… [Moderating] Let’s lay off the discussions of inflicting physical violence on other posters, please. No warning issued this time. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/49 "2016-04-20T16:22:02Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > The 130 years old claim is unlikely to be true. I produced documentation to show that he was around in 1859. Did you miss that? There’s no shame in admitting you did. And, as **D’Anconia** said and I repeat, that is not good enough to overcome skepticism of his claim. As well as the fact that if he lied about his age, he could well be lying about being a slave. What _Jet_ said about they claimed to have seen is not very good evidence. Do you believe it was proven beyond any reasonable doubt? Would you accept the same level of evidence for some other claim? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/50 "2016-04-20T16:24:05Z")
> [@Living Well Is Best Revenge](#): > > Of course the dope is better off with all this crazy. It would be boring if everyone was level-headed and normal. I guess we will never know. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/51 "2016-04-20T16:31:28Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > And, as **D’Anconia** said and I repeat, that is not good enough to overcome skepticism of his claim. As well as the fact that if he lied about his age, he could well be lying about being a slave. What _Jet_ said about they claimed to have seen is not very good evidence. > > Do you believe it was proven beyond any reasonable doubt? Would you accept the same level of evidence for some other claim? > > Regards, > Shodan A respected magazine (D’Anconia’s dismissal of it notwithstanding) said they saw historical documents–not ones Magee produced, but ones they found. The only claim on the table was that he was a slave, not that he was 130 years old. Dismissal of his other claim is immaterial. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/52 "2016-04-20T16:54:06Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > And, as **D’Anconia** said and I repeat, that is not good enough to overcome skepticism of his claim. As well as the fact that if he lied about his age, he could well be lying about being a slave. What _Jet_ said about they claimed to have seen is not very good evidence. > > Do you believe it was proven beyond any reasonable doubt? Would you accept the same level of evidence for some other claim? > > Regards, > Shodan > [@Resolved: antisemitism is not directly comparable to anti-black racism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resolved-antisemitism-is-not-directly-comparable-to-anti-black-racism/709431/45): > > The story of Sylvester Magee is just that, a story, much like the frogs in Egypt. Same level of documentation, too. > > [Cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Magee) Seems you read a different thread than I did. 1. D’Anconia’s first post (quoted) denies monstro’s claim that: > [@monstro](#): > > But the last surviving American slave died in the 1970s. 1. But in the Wikipedia article D’Anconia links too, we have the statement that > [@Wikipedia](#): > > There is no birth certificate to verify his birth date, but records in the probate division of the Chancery Court in Covington County, dated February, 1859, show Magee and his father, Ephriam were owned by slave-owner Hugh Magee. monstro did never claim anything about the age of Sylvester Magee. She didn’t even mention the name, for chrissakes. So, from what I can see: 1. D’Anconia attacks another poster’s comments by citing an article, which, explicitly, supports her comments 2. He then proceeds to attack a claim she didn’t make 3. You, for some reason, make the link between a possible lie and another claim Why? ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/53 "2016-04-20T16:55:28Z")
Not going to lie – I probably disagree with Drunky Smurf on any matter of real substance, but for whatever odd reason I find him terribly amusing. Can’t see him on a list of worst posters. ElvisL1ves, on the other hand… Is there a nastier piece of work on these boards? He deserves to be up there with the right wingers already mentioned. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/54 "2016-04-20T17:01:07Z")
No, I read the same thread. If you have a link to the actual documents, and evidence that it is the same Magee, then you would have evidence. And no, what _Jet_ claims to have seen is not very good evidence. I suppose you believed in the Hitler diaries, too. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/55 "2016-04-20T17:05:26Z")
I’m not a huge fan of **billfish678** ’s tendency to blow up at any minor rudeness, unless the rudeness is targetted at minorities, in which case college students are just too sensitive ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/56 "2016-04-20T17:14:15Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > No, I read the same thread. If you have a link to the actual documents, and evidence that it is the same Magee, then you would have evidence. > > And no, what _Jet_ claims to have seen is not very good evidence. > > I suppose you believed in the Hitler diaries, too. > > Regards, > Shodan Interesting argument there. I didn’t state my belief for anything in the Wikipedia article; I just stated that D’Arconia had used an article which actually supported the other person’s claim to attack that person’s claim. I know that the veracity of anything in Wikipedia can be questioned and I don’t actually know if the document in Chancery Court in Covington County exists, or if it had ever been seen by anyone at Jet magazine. However, I can see that citing something that supports the opponent claims as part of a counter-argument is … not good for your own argument. And I wonder why you need to defend that kind of attitude. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/57 "2016-04-20T17:25:09Z")
Holy mackerel, is **D’Anconia** derailing threads remotely now? Another vote for dumb as a **doorhinge** , the user who finally convinced me to use the ignore list. He’s either a troll or genuinely a massive idiot. Either way, I wish people would stop humoring him so maybe he would get bored and go away. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/58 "2016-04-20T17:29:53Z")
> [@Taber](#): > > I’m not a huge fan of **billfish678** ’s tendency to blow up at any minor rudeness, unless the rudeness is targetted at minorities, in which case college students are just too sensitive Bite me. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/59 "2016-04-20T18:08:13Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I suppose you believed in the Hitler diaries, too. Apropos of nothing, **Ambivalid** , are you still taking nominations for your list? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/60 "2016-04-20T18:21:20Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Apropos of nothing, **Ambivalid** , are you still taking nominations for your list? I did notice a glaring omission of some sort. I wish I could put my finger on it. It’s someone with an irritating signature. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693.md?page=4)