# The worst of the worst (SDMB version)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 20, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693 "2016-04-20T00:54:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/61 "2016-04-20T19:06:02Z")

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> [@Taber](#):
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> I’m not a huge fan of **billfish678** ’s tendency to blow up at any minor rudeness, unless the rudeness is targetted at minorities, in which case college students are just too sensitive

Yeah he fits in well with the aceplace and urbanredneck types.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/62 "2016-04-20T19:16:16Z")

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I was stripped of my mentor too soon …

**GIGObuster** … no knowledge, can’t learn … copy/paste machine.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/63 "2016-04-20T19:30:11Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Interesting argument there. I didn’t state my belief for anything in the Wikipedia article; I just stated that D’Arconia had used an article which actually supported the other person’s claim to attack that person’s claim.
> 
> I know that the veracity of anything in Wikipedia can be questioned and I don’t actually know if the document in Chancery Court in Covington County exists, or if it had ever been seen by anyone at Jet magazine.
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> However, I can see that citing something that supports the opponent claims as part of a counter-argument is … not good for your own argument.
> 
> And I wonder why you need to defend that kind of attitude.

So you are not vouching for the veracity of a cite, but you think it backs up one position over another. Did you read the part of the Wiki article that said Magee’s claims were undocumented and controversial? Do you think that part backs up anyone’s claim?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/64 "2016-04-20T19:45:31Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> So you are not vouching for the veracity of a cite, but you think it backs up one position over another. Did you read the part of the Wiki article that said Magee’s claims were undocumented and controversial? Do you think that part backs up anyone’s claim?
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Of course the part of the Wiki that says the claims were undocumented and controversial don’t support the claim that Magee was a slave.

However, I can find the “undocumented and controversial” comments and/or references within the bulk of the article. The “strongest” evidence is the article by Jet, which, since I don’t actually know the magazine and its trustworthiness, is, at best, indirect evidence.

All in all, the article tips, lightly, towards confirming the claim that Magee was a slave, since it doesn’t actually provide me with sources that deny the claim.

I definitely wouldn’t use the article as a cite to attack the contention that the last slave died in the 1970’s.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/65 "2016-04-20T19:49:48Z")

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I held off, but I’ll drop a few names in the hat.

**LinusK** for “economics” and “feminism”, but mostly for advancing the same arguments repeatedly in the face of overwhelming evidence. He seems to believe if he just says it enough times, it will become true.

**Chief Pedant** for racism and racist debates.

**Monty** for calling me out when I drop into text typing instead of full sentences. I’m using a tablet. Shit happens. 😛 (Right. This one’s not that serious.)

Regarding **Bricker** , I think he rounds out the Board. I do notice that he’ll jump to a conclusion about an assertion that I or others have made (which would be that we’re wrong, when the evidence isn’t immediately obvious because it occurred earlier in the thread or required reading another thread. I will also grant that he does acknowledge reality when presented with evidence, unlike another I have previously noted.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/66 "2016-04-20T19:53:40Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Of course the part of the Wiki that says the claims were undocumented and controversial don’t support the claim that Magee was a slave.
> 
> However, I can find the “undocumented and controversial” comments and/or references within the bulk of the article. The “strongest” evidence is the article by Jet, which, since I don’t actually know the magazine and its trustworthiness, is, at best, indirect evidence.
> 
> All in all, the article tips, lightly, towards confirming the claim that Magee was a slave, since it doesn’t actually provide me with sources that deny the claim.
> 
> I definitely wouldn’t use the article as a cite to attack the contention that the last slave died in the 1970’s.

Typo: However, I can find[…]  
Should read: However, I cannot find

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/67 "2016-04-20T20:29:07Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> I held off, but I’ll drop a few names in the hat.
> 
> **LinusK** for “economics” and “feminism”, but mostly for advancing the same arguments repeatedly in the face of overwhelming evidence. He seems to believe if he just says it enough times, it will become true.

Please substitute “misogyny” for “feminism” to make the meaning clearer.

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**Author:** ![Barrett\_Bonden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Barrett\_Bonden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barrett_Bonden)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/68 "2016-04-20T20:39:34Z")

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I like and respect **Bricker** and **Drunky Smurf** is pretty damn funny.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/69 "2016-04-20T20:40:47Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Of course the part of the Wiki that says the claims were undocumented and controversial don’t support the claim that Magee was a slave.

Then you did exactly what **D’Anconia** did.

**monstro** or somebody made a claim, for which there is very little evidence. **D’Anconia** pointed out that the story was just a story, and had no hard evidence to back it up, and pretty hard evidence that another claim made by the same person was very probably false. And **Left Hand of Dorkness** got snippy because **D’Anconia** wouldn’t back down on his skepticism, based on no hard evidence at all.

> [@](#):
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> I definitely wouldn’t use the article as a cite to attack the contention that the last slave died in the 1970’s.

The claim doesn’t have to be disproved. It has to be proved. No real proof has been supplied.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/70 "2016-04-20T20:51:10Z")

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> [@Barrett\_Bonden](#):
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> **Drunky Smurf** is pretty damn funny.

I don’t know exactly when this happened, but I used to have **Drunky Smurf** filed away as a low-rent **Vinyl Turnip** : trying the same one-liner game, but not able to quite pull it off as well. However, lately, he seems to just be a carbon copy right-winger like **davida03801**.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/71 "2016-04-20T20:57:35Z")

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> [@Barrett\_Bonden](#):
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> I like and respect **Bricker** and **Drunky Smurf** is pretty damn funny.

Eh, **Drunky** , the human Bronx Cheer? I can take him or leave him, depending on how I feel about whoever he’s sneering at this hour.

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**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/72 "2016-04-20T21:43:25Z")

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OK. I finally get it.

This list of **bold type** names is a congratulatory to those that make SDMB the beautiful place it is.

Where would we be without them?

Saludos

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/73 "2016-04-20T21:57:27Z")

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I’d add **Stringbean** of cavernous vagina fame, and I’ll second **LinusK** , not so much for the misogyny as the sheer, unrelenting stupidity.

Oh, and **Shodan** , for general assholishness.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/74 "2016-04-20T22:13:23Z")

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Many antifeminists are accused of just arguing on the Internet instead of helping men. Accuse me.

LinusK is a lawyer. A criminal defense lawyer who saves tens of mostly innocent men from hundreds of years of incarceration and supports his family is not a loser. This is a position many of us can envy.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/75 "2016-04-20T22:19:13Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> **CCitizen**. The board isn’t a good place for cyborgs.

I am only a **Homo Interneticus Smartphonicus**. A **cyborg** is a further step in evolution – they have electronics embedded in them and a direct connection to the Internet.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/76 "2016-04-20T22:25:45Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Then you did exactly what **D’Anconia** did.
> 
> **monstro** or somebody made a claim, for which there is very little evidence. **D’Anconia** pointed out that the story was just a story, and had no hard evidence to back it up, and pretty hard evidence that another claim made by the same person was very probably false. And **Left Hand of Dorkness** got snippy because **D’Anconia** wouldn’t back down on his skepticism, based on no hard evidence at all.  
> The claim doesn’t have to be disproved. It has to be proved. No real proof has been supplied.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

And that’s exactly what I don’t get.

1. Somebody made a claim
2. According to a Wikipedia page (cited) there is actually no claim against it. Actually a magazine claims there is hard evidence which, so far, has not been refuted. Well, I don’t find evidence telling us that the hard evidence is not real
3. D’Anconia disregarded point 2 completely. And didn’t actually reference it, but another claim entirely (unlikely age)

There is a possibility to refute the “hard” claim: go to the County and ask for the information. If it isn’t there, the magazine lied.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/77 "2016-04-20T22:26:45Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> 1. **Charlie Wayne**. I throw up in my mouth just a little bit every time he posts. Troll or not, he’s like nails on a chalkboard. In the special-ed classroom.

**Charlie Wayne** hasn’t posted since getting a [warning](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19179731&postcount=30) last month. Either he was devastated by the warning and is staying away out of shame, or the Doper responsible for the “Charlie Wayne” character pulled the plug to avoid further scrutiny from the moderators. I’m leaning toward the latter.

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> 1. **SlackerInc**. I’m not sure what it is about this dude but even when he says something I agree with, I want to punch him in his mouth. Every single thread he’s started has _at least_ the undercurrent of “I’m so much smarter than you”, if not the outright theme.

He’s more or less [admitted to that](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18704997&postcount=515):

> [@RO: This is totally going to kill Bring Your Clock to School Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ro-this-is-totally-going-to-kill-bring-your-clock-to-school-day/731454/515):
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> I do meet the clinical definition of narcissm, but like homosexuality a half century ago, I think it’s bogus to pathologize robust self regard.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/78 "2016-04-20T22:27:17Z")

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\*\*Bricker \*\*is a net value to the board, I’d say. His law expertise is useful.

That said, when his ideology is in play, he’s willing to post dishonestly. But given his value, I’d say he’s not one of the worst posters.

\*\*Clothy \*\*is a shrieking mental deficient, now that’s a guy that doesn’t bring anything useful. No entertainment value.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/79 "2016-04-20T22:31:53Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Many antifeminists are accused of just arguing on the Internet instead of helping men. Accuse me.
> 
> LinusK is a lawyer. A criminal defense lawyer who saves tens of mostly innocent men from hundreds of years of incarceration and supports his family is not a loser. This is a position many of us can envy.

You’ll have book #4 written in no time!

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-worst-of-the-worst-sdmb-version/752693/80 "2016-04-20T22:37:45Z")

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My only issue with **Bricker** is that when he gets started with his legal/linguistic/whatever wrangling in a thread, it ends up overwhelming the whole discussion. He doesn’t really hijack threads as much as smother them.  
My personal worst-of-the-worst isn’t really the worst, but is bad enough that I paid for a custom title to try and forestall the inevitable confusion between me and him. (I was here first, dammit!)

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