# The WoW "Burning Dog Legion" (Cairne/Horde) 10-man Raid List.

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 15, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561 "2010-03-15T17:36:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/121 "2010-04-06T16:53:09Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> (I know EoE is annoying, but it’s also kinda fun, and required if you want the Champion of the Frozen Wastes title).

Oh cool, I was wondering about that title. It looks like Malygos is all I’m missing from that.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/122 "2010-04-06T16:56:54Z")

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Oh damn, forgot about that title. Now I feel bad about not being there. Oh well, hope you guys had fun. I’ll probably show up next week.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/123 "2010-04-06T17:17:20Z")

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Reposting for any new comers…

Burning Dog Legion 10-Man Raid List:

1. **Yeticus Rex** / Yeticalayla (D - Pally) / Mon or Wed. / Pacific
2. **Skammer** / Kene (H/D - Priest) / Mon or Fri / Central
3. **Tom Scud** / Muzungu (T/D) (possibly later Rumpole (D/H?)) / Mon or Thu / central.
4. **FlightlessBird** / Rottingbird | Lightbird (D | D,T(or can respec H)) / M,T,W,R / Pacific.
5. **Bosstone** / Nahren (H/D) / All nights / Pacific
6. **Orr, G.** / Rasz (D-Ranged) / All nights / Any time
7. **Runestar** / Kalathan (D). Any nights but Mon/Wed, but could probably switch my Wednesday night - I pair up with a friend and we adventure together.
8. **Creasemunky** / Jarryn (D,H) Tiavet (D) / Varies / Central
9. **Jragon** / Jsor (D) / Free any night time slot (this semester thru summer at least) / Arizona time zone (so I vary between what DST we’re on at any given moment).
10. **JayRx1981** / Rahuul / Free any night after 10pm EST
11. **Eonwe** / Blumunk / Mogbog (T) / Tuesdays, maybe Mondays / Eastern
12. _The Lurker only known as_: Reinsgaard (T/D) / Kahmu (T/H) / Proditio (T/D) / Ragemode (H/D) / Any weekday / Eastern
13. **twhitt** / Mefistofele (D, H) / Expect to be 80 by early April
14. **JackaRoe** / Cugel (D-hunter) /, Antiigno (D/T - DK) / Reith (D - Pally) / M,W,AltWknds / Eastern
15. **Anamorphic** / Dunwich - (H/D - Priest)
16. **Jas09** / Darland (D - DK) / one weeknight
17. **Mister Rik** / Keliraeda (D) Can’t really commit to this, though, since my irregular work schedule interferes with attending a regularly-scheduled event.
18. **Headrush042** / Amarynth (T/H - Pally) / Not Tues or Sun /
19. **Nanook** / _PENDING_
20. **My Darn Snake Legs** / Pangolin / _PENDING_
21. ?
22. ?
23. ?
24. ?
25. _ **PROFIT!!!** _

That was awesome last night, guys! Also glad that there were some upgrades to be had as well.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/124 "2010-04-06T17:49:12Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Now they can look forward to Frogger II and Frogger III.

The walking bombs before Mimi and the traps in ICC? 😃

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/125 "2010-04-06T19:15:39Z")

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I must say, I was dreading Frogger before I got there, and was a bit disappointed that it was so easy. I thought it would be like actual Frogger, with different lines proceeding at different speeds and in different directions, et cetera.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/126 "2010-04-06T20:08:12Z")

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Really, the biggest problem with Frogger is lag. The best way to do it is to (a) aim right at the backside of an ooze or (b) have enough HP that you can live through a hit, in which case you can just stop between each row to get your health back to full. 😃

(And yes, it is possible to get hit and live. I’ve done it. I don’t remember how good my gear was at that point, but it was probably over 5k HP ago.)

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**Author:** ![Headrush042](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Headrush042](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Headrush042)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/127 "2010-04-06T20:12:05Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Reposting for any new comers…  
> 18. **Headrush042** / Amarynth (T/H - Pally) / Not Tues or Sun /

Also add to that: Erudine (H/D - Priest)

Just dinged 80 last week, but gearing up in heroics as a disc healer has been trivial with all the overgeared tanks and dps that are just farming emblems. Assuming anyone else ever decides to tank for us 🙂 It’s not that scary, honest!

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/128 "2010-04-06T22:06:03Z")

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Man, that reminds me, I need to drop my Shadow spec for a Disc spec. Maybe I’ll try to do that on Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/129 "2010-04-06T22:24:23Z")

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> [@Headrush042](#):
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> Assuming anyone else ever decides to tank for us 🙂 It’s not that scary, honest!

I could always give it a shot. Theoretically [I’m specced and gemmed for tanking](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Cairne&cn=Nahren), though my trinkets and enchants kinda suck. My expertise is at the soft cap (and actually a good bit beyond with the 213 staff I got off KT last night), but I don’t know how essential being at the expertise hard cap is for a tank. Defense is capped (yay druids) and my health is just over 30k with the new staff. Half my gear is still in the 200s, so I won’t be tanking ICC anytime soon, and I’m not sure I could tank Ulduar, but Naxx might be doable.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/130 "2010-04-06T22:37:57Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> My expertise is at the soft cap (and actually a good bit beyond with the 213 staff I got off KT last night), but I don’t know how essential being at the expertise hard cap is for a tank. Defense is capped (yay druids) and my health is just over 30k with the new staff. Half my gear is still in the 200s, so I won’t be tanking ICC anytime soon, and I’m not sure I could tank Ulduar, but Naxx might be doable.

Expertise is still a nice threat stat for tanks, though it’s less of an avoidance one now that a lot of bosses no longer parry-haste. It’s certainly not a priority stat for most of us–we usually gem Stam, Stam, and then, to spice things up… um, Stam. 30k HP should be fine for Naxx10. Really, one of the biggest parts of tanking is learning the mechanics, not getting the stats (other than the obvious uncrittable part).

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/131 "2010-04-08T19:09:00Z")

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Ok guys, next Monday is still sitting open on the calendar. I vote for starting with Obsidian Sanctum with 1 (maybe 2, depending on time) revisits to Naxx for those who missed out on some of the bosses back in Naxx. If nobody needs any Naxx bosses, then maybe take a vote and see if we should move on to Eye of Eternity. I personally don’t know how much time it takes for OS and/or EoE, but for those who do, please chime in and recommend a better plan…better yet…put the plan on the calendar!

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/132 "2010-04-08T19:19:37Z")

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The thing about Naxx is that the weekly raid quest is in Naxx this week, so anyone who does that prior to Monday will be locked out. If we _know_ we’re going to go to Naxx, people might wait to do the weekly together. Any PUGs will just want to do the quest boss (which is the spider guy I think).

Personally I’d vote for doing OS, and then if that goes quickly, trying for EoE. EoE is pretty fast, but also pretty tricky because of the mechanics. OS should be easy, particularly if we are not leaving any portals open (which is how we should do it the first time, anyway).

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/133 "2010-04-08T19:49:56Z")

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OS and EoE can be very fast or take forever. It’s mostly a matter of how many times you wipe.

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/134 "2010-04-09T01:35:27Z")

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Man, you guys are making me itch to roll something up, load em with BoAs, and xfer. Looking at the list, it looks like you could use more ranged dps since you’re heal/tank heavy, right? (I only wish I had that problem. :D)

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/135 "2010-04-09T02:31:43Z")

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We’ve got a couple of shadow priests and the odd hunter or two, but yeah, in general we’re melee (paladin) or healer-heavy. And I speak as someone who mainly plays a priest and _two_ paladins, although only the priest is 80.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/136 "2010-04-12T17:07:34Z")

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Just curious about tonight…how many players who signed up for tonight still have the weekly raid (in Naxx) left to do? I still do.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/137 "2010-04-12T17:26:51Z")

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I lost a lot of playing time this weekend due to my PC upgrade; so I still need it.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/138 "2010-04-12T17:55:58Z")

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> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> Just curious about tonight…how many players who signed up for tonight still have the weekly raid (in Naxx) left to do? I still do.

I have honestly barely played (enough to get all but 3 of the noblegarden achieves then I got bored–I’ve even gone about 4 days without doing my frost badge runs) this past week, so I still need the weekly as well.

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/139 "2010-04-12T21:42:21Z")

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I still need the weekly. It’d be nice to get a bunch of emblems at once 🙂  
I also noticed this morning that we had 10 accepteds already and 4 tentatives. Looks like we’ll be turning people away tonight (at least for the OS run) If we require an open Naxx lock, those numbers may drop significantly. (As would the likelihood of finishing a Naxx run.)

I figure we’ll see who still can do Naxx, and if it decimates the group we can do EoE instead.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wow-burning-dog-legion-cairne-horde-10-man-raid-list/532561/140 "2010-04-12T22:08:47Z")

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The real test will be if we can get a tank for the Naxx run. We should be able to fill the rest of a 10-man out pretty easily.

The boss to be killed – it’s the very first boss in that quarter, isn’t it?

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