# The zero-tolerance dimwits score another perfect shot to the foot
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 30, 2004, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297 "2004-11-30T06:49:24Z")
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### Author:  [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/1 "2004-11-30T06:49:24Z")
The father of a high school band member arranged for a nice donation from his employer to the school in the form of fishing kits that could be sold door-to-door to raise money for a planned band trip. The kits apparently contain the necessary stuff to catch, clean, and cook fish. Sounds innocent enough, right? The school principal refused to take delivery of the 2200 kits because they contained a [6 inch filet knife.](http://www.jsonline.com/news/ozwash/nov04/277838.asp) :eek: The school board president referred to the collection of fishing kits as an “arsenal.” :rolleyes:
I’ll refer to the bunch of them as an arsenal of arse. For people supposedly entrusted with educating children, they seriously need to get a clue.
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### Author:  [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/2 "2004-11-30T06:55:18Z")
Being Germantown, not a big surprise. The lefties have a pretty good hold in that area.
Hell, in ND there are some schools that still allow kids to bring their shotguns during hunting season so they can leave school and hit the fields right away. Guess we have more common sense than most, even kids. When’s the last time you heard of a massive school shooting in ND? Or _anywhere_ in this concealed-carry state?
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### Author:  [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/3 "2004-11-30T07:07:28Z")
> [@duffer](#):
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> Being Germantown, not a big surprise. The lefties have a pretty good hold in that area.
Yes, us lefties are pushing a culture this fear. :rolleyes:
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> Hell, in ND there are some schools that still allow kids to bring their shotguns during hunting season so they can leave school and hit the fields right away. Guess we have more common sense than most, even kids. When’s the last time you heard of a massive school shooting in ND? Or _anywhere_ in this concealed-carry state?
Other then Columbine when was the last time there was a massive school shooting in general? Massive in my book being more then 5 dead.
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### Author:  [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/4 "2004-11-30T07:08:56Z")
culture _of_ fear
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### Author:  [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/5 "2004-11-30T07:26:01Z")
> [@World Eater](#):
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> Other then Columbine when was the last time there was a massive school shooting in general? Massive in my book being more then 5 dead.
April 26, 2002. Erfurt, Germany.
13 teachers, two students, one policeman killed, ten people injured, the shooter committed suicide.
At Beslan, Russia, in September of this year, 344 civillians were killed, including 172 children, though that was perpetrated by terrorists rather than students.
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### Author:  [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/6 "2004-11-30T07:28:44Z")
Jesus,\*\* World Eater\*\*, ever heard of a concept called perspective? Stop looking for shit to be mad about and take it easy every now and then.
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### Author:  [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/7 "2004-11-30T07:30:47Z")
BTW, ever been to Germantown? I have. I grew up near there. Guess I have every right to make calls on locals in Brooklyn now, right? :rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/8 "2004-11-30T08:04:06Z")
**duffer** , do you have any evidence that the President of the School Board leans to the left politically other than the fact that she or he lives in an area which is known to be generally liberal?
What are the state laws there regarding knives in school? If there were a law against it, it seems to me that the smart thing to do would be to remove the knives, have the students sell the kits, get the names and addresses of all those who bought kits, and make the knives available to them without involving the students.
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### Author:  [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/9 "2004-11-30T08:57:31Z")
Also, just FYI, you can carry a concealed handgun here in Colorado, and you could when Columbine happened.
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### Author:  [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/10 "2004-11-30T09:20:03Z")
> [@duffer](#):
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> Jesus,\*\* World Eater\*\*, ever heard of a concept called perspective? Stop looking for shit to be mad about and take it easy every now and then.
slight hijack
Actually, I agree with him. This thing of so many people getting in even the teensiest tiniest leftie/rightie/republican/democrat thing **digs** in the most innocuous thread subjects is really getting annoying. The election is over, let’s move on.
Please, PLEASE??? Pretty please with sugar on top?
Sigh
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### Author:  [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/11 "2004-11-30T09:25:27Z")
> [@threemae](#):
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> Also, just FYI, you can carry a concealed handgun here in Colorado, and you could when Columbine happened.
Too bad some of the teachers weren’t packing that day, maybe some lives could have been saved.
West Virginia has concealed carry and has never had a school shooting. There. I’ve now proved as much as you have. 🙂
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### Author:  [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/12 "2004-11-30T10:21:22Z")
> [@Zoe](#):
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> **duffer** , do you have any evidence that the President of the School Board leans to the left politically other than the fact that she or he lives in an area which is known to be generally liberal?
_sigh_ You understand how local School Boards work, right? They are directly accountable to the city they serve. If the community is liberal, the Board’s policies will be liberal.
Thanks for helping me make my point, even if you didn’t realize it.
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### Author:  [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/13 "2004-11-30T13:52:09Z")
The decision has nothing to do with being left or right, it has to do with being stupid.
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### Author:  [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/14 "2004-11-30T15:06:40Z")
> [@threemae](#):
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> Also, just FYI, you can carry a concealed handgun here in Colorado, and you could when Columbine happened.
Not at a school.
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### Author:  [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/15 "2004-11-30T15:16:34Z")
> [@Garfield226](#):
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> April 26, 2002. Erfurt, Germany.
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> 13 teachers, two students, one policeman killed, ten people injured, the shooter committed suicide.
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> At Beslan, Russia, in September of this year, 344 civillians were killed, including 172 children, though that was perpetrated by terrorists rather than students.
Any in the US?
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### Author:  [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/16 "2004-11-30T15:18:21Z")
> [@duffer](#):
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> Jesus,\*\* World Eater\*\*, ever heard of a concept called perspective? Stop looking for shit to be mad about and take it easy every now and then.
Someone says stupid shit, I’ll call them out on it, it’s like a reflex.
I seem to call _you_ out a lot for some reason.
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### Author:  [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/17 "2004-11-30T15:19:00Z")
c’mon **duffer** , everyone knows you were taking a shot at the ‘lefties’, don’t try to rationalize after the fact. It just makes you look silly.
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/18 "2004-11-30T16:14:34Z")
> [@World Eater](#):
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> Any in the US?
[Almost (maybe)](http://www.gjsentinel.com/hp/content/epaper/editions/tuesday/11_30_1a_FMS_Parents.html). Another Colorado school, five kids, two guns, and a “hit list”.
Ironically, the police officer who did the locker search that uncovered the first gun discovered that 1) it was her son’s locker, and 2) it was her gun. That \*can’t \* be good for her career prospects.
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### Author:  [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/19 "2004-11-30T16:35:25Z")
> [@Gyrate](#):
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> [Almost (maybe)](http://www.gjsentinel.com/hp/content/epaper/editions/tuesday/11_30_1a_FMS_Parents.html). Another Colorado school, five kids, two guns, and a “hit list”.
Get back to me when we have some corpses.
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zero-tolerance-dimwits-score-another-perfect-shot-to-the-foot/277297/20 "2004-11-30T16:40:45Z")
> [@World Eater](#):
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> Get back to me when we have some corpses.
I’ll get my fishing kit…
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