# The Ziz cult **URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ziz-cult/1014103 **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share **Created:** [February 9, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ziz-cult/1014103 "2025-02-09T22:42:14Z") **Posts on this page:** 1 **Showing post:** 1
### Author: ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna) #### Post date: [February 9, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ziz-cult/1014103/1 "2025-02-09T22:42:14Z")
This weird saga was first noted here in the Pit thread Evil MFers in the News. A shootout in Vermont turned out to be connected to a radically vegan cult of trans women that splintered from a rationalist movement and is linked to a series of murders. The founder of the cult is one Ziz, wanted by the cops and currently at large, having unsuccessfully faked her own death. [I gotta hand it to the Zizians, they have designed and implemented an entirely new way of going criminally insane on purpose](https://zizians.info/). But I cringe because it makes the rest of us sane and law-abiding trans women look bad by association. I don’t want transphobes to use this against us. Skepchick explains it: “New death cult just dropped.” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/M0hmXDY_HmI/maxresdefault.jpg "The "Rationalist" Death Cult Now Spreading Mayhem in the US") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0hmXDY_HmI) --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ziz-cult/1014103)._