# The ZPG Zealot handshake thread party extravaganza **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713 "2016-06-29T16:14:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/361 "2016-07-04T12:35:50Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Your story just keeps getting harder and harder to believe. Never too late to quit, if you need a sponsor… ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/362 "2016-07-04T14:40:18Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’m harder than Chinese algebra _yoink_ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/363 "2016-07-04T14:49:34Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > _yoink_ [Pasties and a g-string](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPSktrg6GO0) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/364 "2016-07-04T15:14:24Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > **ZPG Zealot** enjoys being a champion of generally indefensible positions; She’s simply a professional keyboard martyr. She’s a bigot. Her culture’s way of doing things is correct; all others are morally wrong. There isn’t a lot more to it than that. Everyone is looking at this the wrong way; she’s crazy, she’s a troll, she believes X but not Y, and so on. The entire thing is remarkably simplified and logical if you simply realize she’s a massive racist. Her people are correct; everyone else is dirty and wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/365 "2016-07-04T19:07:31Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Her people Which people? She’s never specifically stated. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/366 "2016-07-04T19:09:19Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Which people? She’s never specifically stated. Sure she has, she’s Roma. Make no mistake; in her eyes, that’s the right people. Everyone else is bad. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/367 "2016-07-04T19:14:01Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Sure she has, she’s Roma. According to **Kal** , who is also Roma, **ZPG** belongs to some subset of Roma. That is why I said she has never specifically stated. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/368 "2016-07-04T19:47:37Z")
Being a victim validates her. She _wants_ to be a social pariah. It validates her ‘unique cultural identity’ and draws the attention she craves to fill that emptiness inside. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/369 "2016-07-04T20:03:31Z")
What perplexes me is the cognitive dissonance on display. She is fighting for women! By buying into the idea that a husband owns his wife. Women deserve respect! By treating them as delicate flowers and not equals. Respect cultural differences! Well you whores and gender traitors need to respect mine; i spit on yours. Help battered and abused women! By reinforcing the idea that slutty women who shake hands are violating their husbands ’ rights to sole ownership and might just end up dead. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/370 "2016-07-04T20:23:49Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > What perplexes me is the cognitive dissonance on display. She is fighting for women! By buying into the idea that a husband owns his wife. Women deserve respect! By treating them as delicate flowers and not equals. Respect cultural differences! Well you whores and gender traitors need to respect mine; i spit on yours. Help battered and abused women! By reinforcing the idea that slutty women who shake hands are violating their husbands ’ rights to sole ownership and might just end up dead. Don’t forget: Calling someone a whore isn’t that much of an insult. But I should stab someone for suggesting I’m a whore! ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/371 "2016-07-04T21:26:29Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Don’t forget: Calling someone a whore isn’t that much of an insult. But I should stab someone for suggesting I’m a whore! I was starting to wonder if no one else was astonished by that! ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/372 "2016-07-04T22:40:51Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Strange, I have been legally employed for decades and never had any such problems. The only male co-workers I have ever encountered that I have had problems were all misogynists. Several of them are now convicted sex offenders. Strange, no one has ever accused me of the improper sexual conduct at work or improper conduct with anyone for that matter (and I work with teenagers all the time where it’s gossip central). What sort of library is this that attracts so many future sex offenders? But I have no problem believing no one would ever accuse you of improper sexual conduct. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/373 "2016-07-04T22:50:38Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Don’t forget: Calling someone a whore isn’t that much of an insult. But I should stab someone for suggesting I’m a whore! I \*had \*forgotten that bit of WTF. Thanks for reminding me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/374 "2016-07-04T23:19:11Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Respect cultural differences! Well you whores and gender traitors need to respect mine; i spit on yours. That’s because, IIRC, none of us actually has a culture - only she does. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/375 "2016-07-04T23:25:32Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > No, the polite thing and correct thing to do is wait for the woman to extend her hand. That is always the correct etiquette. But if for some reason you can’t pass up the possible opportunity to shake someone’s hand, ask, with your words, not some implied non-verbal communication which someone may or may not be understand as a non threatening gesture. No, in a business context it is extremely rude to single out the women for special treatment. If you feel like you might run into someone like ZPG-zealot, you could ask every person you meet if they shake hands, but then everyone will think you are weird. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/376 "2016-07-04T23:33:15Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Anyone here _seen_ **ZPG** ’s hands or have a picture of one, cause I’m harder than Chinese algebra imagining those long, smooth fingers. Wearing just that skimpy ring…I’d say she was asking for it. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/377 "2016-07-04T23:49:54Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Strange, I have been legally employed for decades and never had any such problems. The only male co-workers I have ever encountered that I have had problems were all misogynists. Several of them are now convicted sex offenders. Strange, no one has ever accused me of the improper sexual conduct at work or improper conduct with anyone for that matter (and I work with teenagers all the time where it’s gossip central). The no touching policy is simply the most effective way I have found to deal with the opposite gender. It virtually eliminates misunderstandings and questionable behavior. The only thing that concerns me about this story is the possibility that you had something to do with them getting convicted. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/378 "2016-07-05T00:14:23Z")
So what if a man has a sick obsession with raping other men? How does that fit in? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/379 "2016-07-05T01:18:53Z")
Question for any Romany or those actually familiar with the Romany culture: Is there in fact such a sub-culture with the proscriptions/traditions which ZPG Zealot has described? Remember that one person does not constitute a sub-culture. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713/380 "2016-07-05T01:26:32Z")
There isn’t. Several people have tried to google this and no one can verify it. She (if s/he is really a she) refuses to say what the subgroup is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-zpg-zealot-handshake-thread-party-extravaganza/758713.md?page=20)