# the\_great\_dalmuti, apologize.  Now.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 27, 2002, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071 "2002-07-27T04:13:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/1 "2002-07-27T04:13:47Z")

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In this [thread,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=127406&pagenumber=2) you wrote to me

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> If you don’t think fat people should be allowed to make money, as you’re saying, then you’re a bigot and a horrible person.

This is a knowingly false statement. I made no such statement.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/2 "2002-07-27T04:49:11Z")

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I don’t think that this OP is in the slightest bit necessary. Perhaps GD is a bit too much for you at this juncture.

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/3 "2002-07-27T05:00:25Z")

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Excuse me, **Mr. Cynical**? A poster states that I am a “bigot” and a “horrible” person, and bases his conclusion on a false claim that I asserted that fat people shouldn’t be allowed to earn money.

And **I’m** the one in the wrong?!!

I tried to parse it out so that he wasn’t insulting me, but it didn’t work. He said if I had said X, I was a bigot. And he said that I had said X.

Sua

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/4 "2002-07-27T05:06:35Z")

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SuaSponte said:

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> But even if it had, so what? The plaintiffs in this fast food lawsuit are not trying to “raise awareness.” They are trying to take money from the fast food companies. Why do they deserve that money? Because they are fat?

the\_great\_dalmuti responded with:

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> If you don’t think fat people should be allowed to make money, as you’re saying, then you’re a bigot and a horrible person.

I couldn’t twist words that much with Chubby Checkers performing live in my living room.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/5 "2002-07-27T05:29:11Z")

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MY personal belief, and your mileage may vary, is that if I don’t explain myself well enough to be understood by everyone…then I didn’t explain myself well 🙂

I still think that the thread is too much for you, as you were flaming him in there anyway. Wisdom would have you egress.

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**Author:** ![WV\_Woman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@WV\_Woman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WV_Woman)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/7 "2002-07-27T06:13:26Z")

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Sua, if those are the two worst things you are called while on this board, you’re doing better than most.

Move on. Does his opinion really matter anyway, in the long run?

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/8 "2002-07-27T06:59:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Space Moose \*  
> \*\*I’m just a rookie here so my opinion probably doesn’t carry a lot of weight, but I think this type of baiting comment is adequate justification for going to the Pit. \*\*

Good thing your opinion doesn’t carry a lot of weight. Otherwise, the horrible and bigoted **SuaSponte** wouldn’t want it to make any money! Ha ha ha! I slay myself. I’ll be here all week, folks.

But I do agree with you that it is an reasonable justification for a Pit thread. It doesn’t matter whether you or me or WV\_woman or Joe Shmoe would have bothered to start a thread about it. Sua didn’t do anything wrong in starting this thread.

**dalmuti** : I also think you owe him an apology. He didn’t say that.

**Space Moose** : Welcome to the boards.

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/9 "2002-07-27T07:42:01Z")

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**Green Bean,** give the baby some brandy. It’ll put him right back to sleep. 😃

Sua

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/10 "2002-07-27T07:52:41Z")

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He’s sleeping like a, well, baby. I’m the insomniac in the family tonight. What are you doing up (besides starting unwarranted pit threads)?

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**Author:** ![Mandelstam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Mandelstam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mandelstam)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/11 "2002-07-27T11:02:21Z")

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**Sua** , did it ever occur to you that if you were less aggressive than other people would be too? **dalmuti** entered that thread like a lamb–the first in a hoard to defend a lawsuit that everyone else thought was nonsense or worse. You could have made your points just as thoroughly without coming on so strong.

And yes, that’s from one Pontiff to another 😉

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/12 "2002-07-27T16:53:43Z")

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I agree with Mr C. Sua, trust the readers of the thread a little more. The\_great\_dalmuti insulted you or misrepresented you? No: he tried, but failed utterly. Don’t you trust us to see that?

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/13 "2002-07-27T18:35:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hawthorne \*  
> \*\*I agree with Mr C. Sua, trust the readers of the thread a little more. The\_great\_dalmuti insulted you or misrepresented you? No: he tried, but failed utterly. Don’t you trust us to see that? \*\*

**hawthorne,** I didn’t read his comments and think “my God, my reputation on the boards is _ruined_.” 😃 If he had called me a moron or a subliterate, this thread would not have been started. But he called me a bigot. Call me that, and I react. If that is a weakness on my part, so be it.

**Mandelstam,** I have no problem with people being aggressive in response to my arguments. If you note, I responded to the (aggressive) arguments **dalmuti** made in the same post.  
But that particular comment wasn’t aggressive. It was offensive.

Sua

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/14 "2002-07-27T18:49:33Z")

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**dalmuti** has had his problems in GD before-remember the whole condescending rant on eating meat and how it’s even horrid to feed meat to your pets?

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2002, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/15 "2002-07-27T23:17:56Z")

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> MY personal belief, and your mileage may vary, is that if I don’t explain myself well enough to be understood by everyone…then I didn’t explain myself well.

I would think this Board would have disabused you of this notion; I know it has me.

[sub]“You _say_ the sky is blue, but what do you mean by ‘sky’? What do you mean by ‘blue’? Are you saying the sky is _only_ blue and nothing else? But it’s gray when it rains and black at night. I’m so confused; you’re not explaining this well . . . .”[/sub]

SUA, those of us who know you know how much of a bigot and “horrible person” you are – or, in fact, are not. Reputation may be all we have around here, so I can see why you’d zealously guard yours, but remember that you earned it yourself, and a single dumbass comment cannot dent it, much less take it away. No, only you can do that yourself. 😃

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**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/16 "2002-07-29T01:43:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jodi \*  
> Reputation may be all we have around here, so I can see why you’d zealously guard yours, but remember that you earned it yourself, and a single dumbass comment cannot dent it, much less take it away. No, only you can do that yourself. 😃

Does that apply to me, too? How many dumbass comments can I get away with before my reputation is dented? Is there an algorithm? 😃

Sua

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2002, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the_great_dalmuti-apologize-now/121071/17 "2002-07-29T05:00:05Z")

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\>\> How many dumbass comments can I get away with before my reputation is dented?

[Ask the expert](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=127775)
