# Theists, agnostics, beleivers: Have you attempted to read a book by Richard Dawkins? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 18, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theists-agnostics-beleivers-have-you-attempted-to-read-a-book-by-richard-dawkins/510623 "2009-09-18T18:06:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 64
**Author:** ![Fantome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Fantome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fantome)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theists-agnostics-beleivers-have-you-attempted-to-read-a-book-by-richard-dawkins/510623/64 "2009-09-21T12:20:35Z")
> [@ITR\_champion](#): > > Dawkins may be slightly better read and more polite than outright hatemongers like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens, In another thread you said the following: > [@ITR\_champion](#): > > Authors like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens who write books full of hatred and lies directed at religious people find themselves peinited to better jobs and invited to the most prestigious forums. I then asked you: > [@Fantome](#): > > Can you cite any hatred or lies towards religious people that came from Dawkins or Harris? You answered: > [@ITR\_champion](#): > > How about [this](http://summatheologiae.studium-piusx.org/08-8.html): “People who believe in God behave like ruffians: they kill and they murder others along with themselves. Faith in God is like a mental disease-it disorientates you and makes you do evil things.” - Richard Dawkins > > That sure sounds like hatred and lies towards religious people to me. > > Can you just imagine what would happen if he said “Gay people behave like ruffians” or “Blacks kill and they murder others along with themselves” or “Poverty is like a mental disease-it disorientates (?) you and makes you do evil things”? If he said any of those things, he would immediately lose his job and become a pariah, no longer welcome in respectable society. It is only because he directs his hatred and slander at religious people that he instead earns widespread praise from so many sources. My response: > [@Respecting Religious Beliefs](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/respecting-religious-beliefs/487367/101): > > Great, now find me one more piece of evidence (a reliable one would be nice) that Dawkins actually said that. I find it hard to believe as a Google search yields me not even one more instance of that particular quote. > > And then you can do the same for the identical accusation you made of Sam Harris. You never got back to me. Here you are again claiming Sam Harris is a hatemonger. Show some evidence or shut up already. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theists-agnostics-beleivers-have-you-attempted-to-read-a-book-by-richard-dawkins/510623)._