# There ain't no Sauron... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 30, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499 "2018-08-30T01:35:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/1 "2018-08-30T01:35:31Z")
…that’s just Tom Bombadil when he’s drunk! ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/2 "2018-08-30T01:43:08Z")
Noted. We certainly don’t want another mix up like last time. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/3 "2018-08-30T02:22:02Z")
That’d explain why the ring didn’t affect him. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/4 "2018-08-30T02:26:41Z")
There ain’t no Sauron when he’s gone. Only darkness every day. ---
**Author:** ![Sloe\_Moe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sloe\_Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sloe_Moe)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/5 "2018-08-30T02:29:54Z")
You’re saying it’s just Tom lost in the sauron. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/6 "2018-08-30T02:55:23Z")
\*Met him on a Monday at the Withywin (He’s Sau-ron -ron -ron, he’s Sau-ron -ron) Somebody said he was Tom Bombadil (He’s Sau-ron -ron -ron, he’s Sau-ron -ron) Yeah - he took the Ring Yeah - he made it spin Yeah - should have known right then He’s Sau-ron -ron -ron, he’s Sau-ron -ron \* ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/7 "2018-08-30T03:05:01Z")
Oldest and Fatherless: The Terrible Secret of Tom Bombadil [https://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html](https://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html) ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/8 "2018-08-30T04:47:29Z")
You know how some nice people are nasty drunks? Sauron is the opposite. Tom Bombadil is drunk Sauron! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/9 "2018-08-30T23:41:06Z")
Everyone knows Tom Bombadil’s alter-ego is Tim Benzedrine! > [@](#): > > Tim Tim Benzedrine! > Hash! Boo! Valvoline! > Clean, clean Clean for Gene! > First, Second, Neutral, Park – > Hie thee hence, you leafy Narc! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/10 "2018-08-30T23:57:19Z")
Tom was just a little girl’s doll. I thought everyone knew that? Sauron however was a Maia of Aulë. He was a smith type, actually worse yet to Tolkien, into machinery and technology. Saruman was also a Maia of Aulë and even more into machinery and technology from what we saw. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/11 "2018-08-31T00:04:40Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Oldest and Fatherless: The Terrible Secret of Tom Bombadil > > [Oldest and Fatherless: The Terrible Secret of Tom Bombadil - Loose Connections — LiveJournal](https://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html) That article is poorly researched. Tom was friends with Farmer Maggot and a few Bucklanders. Some Hobbits knew of him. Tom was an enigma, a person that even the elves did not know much about. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/12 "2018-08-31T00:33:19Z")
> [@rowrrbazzle](#): > > You know how some nice people are nasty drunks? Sauron is the opposite. Tom Bombadil is drunk Sauron! Also known as Whiskey Sauron. _hic_ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/13 "2018-08-31T15:54:04Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Oldest and Fatherless: The Terrible Secret of Tom Bombadil > > [Oldest and Fatherless: The Terrible Secret of Tom Bombadil - Loose Connections — LiveJournal](https://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html) That was very cool; thanks. Now I’ll have to re-read FotR to see if I agree with his interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/14 "2018-08-31T19:54:50Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Oldest and Fatherless: The Terrible Secret of Tom Bombadil > > [Oldest and Fatherless: The Terrible Secret of Tom Bombadil - Loose Connections — LiveJournal](https://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html) Tom Bombadil doesn’t fit well into the rest of the story because he’s an intrusion from a different myth cycle that was only partially and imperfectly syncretized into the “One Ring” cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/15 "2018-09-01T23:49:12Z")
This ain’t no Sauron This ain’t no Dark Lord This ain’t no foolin’ around… ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/16 "2018-09-02T00:17:18Z")
This ain’t no Sauron This ain’t no disco This ain’t no fooling around. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-aint-no-sauron/820499/17 "2018-09-02T17:59:17Z")
…And it’s Sau-ron, it’s been good to know you, This dusty old dust has taken my home, And I got to be movin’ along.