# There are currently SIX article on the Huffpo regarding Miley's performance at the VMAs **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 27, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343 "2013-08-27T23:18:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/41 "2013-08-28T15:45:07Z")
Weird. I’m quoting Brooke Shields for the first time in my life. “It felt a bit desperate.” ---
**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/42 "2013-08-28T15:47:25Z")
Just to add that IMHO Miley’s VMA performance was banal. It wasn’t exciting or extraordinary or fresh or even talented. By contrast when Britney Spears moved to her trailer trash image she was believable and produced good pop music and indeed I have a few tunes of hers on this very pc. My overall impression is that Miley has jumped the shark: she simply is not an adult diva and never can be. She lacks the stage presence, the performing ability, and the voice to raise her above average. Give me Katy Perry anytime. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/43 "2013-08-28T16:18:03Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > 1. What was with the tongue??? It was lolling out like a big fat white worm. I found that so offputting, I couldn’t be bothered by anything else. Srsly. It was embarrassing and gross. > [@planetcory](#): > > I think the tongue is just [a thing she does](https://www.google.com/search?q=miley+tongue&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS548US548&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=bgMeUsHbI4mrsAS5iIGYBg&biw=920&bih=610&sei=dAMeUp3RNeO9sQSYiIDIDQ), independent of that performance. Seems like some kind of nervous/self-conscious gesture to me. At least it is when _I_ do it. I thought she was just imitating the expression of the [bear on her leotard.](http://www.mtv.com/content/ontv/vma/2013/photos/flipbooks/13-backstage-moments/miley-cyrus-177658336-wireimage.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/44 "2013-08-28T16:26:41Z")
Does anyone else suspect that a certain amount of this outrage is phony, being generated by people who are being paid (probably by Disney) to drum up interest in one of their fading investments? ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/45 "2013-08-28T16:31:00Z")
I came into this thread expecting slut-shaming, and the Dope did not disappoint. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/46 "2013-08-28T16:49:15Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Does anyone else suspect that a certain amount of this outrage is phony, being generated by people who are being paid (probably by Disney) to drum up interest in one of their fading investments? I assumed Miley that was out from under the Disney corporate umbrella for some time now. Unless her record label is owned by the same conglomerate. > [@MegaBee](#): > > I came into this thread expecting slut-shaming, and the Dope did not disappoint. Slutty or not, it was a shamefully lousy performance. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/47 "2013-08-28T16:56:11Z")
I’m embarrassed to say that, as a result of the coverage, I had to google “twerking.” Which shouldn’t be done from your work computer, btw. And get off my lawn! ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/48 "2013-08-28T17:03:23Z")
What’s the difference between ‘slut-shaming’ and pointing out that dance moves looked completely slutty? When does my opinion on the whole phenomenon of dirty dancing become ‘slut-shaming’ I’m afraid I’m totally confused. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/49 "2013-08-28T17:14:24Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > It’s also racist…don’t forget the racism. How? > [@leftfield6](#): > > The VMAs are still on? How? MTV never shows actual music videos last time I looked. They must in the middle of the night, but I kind of assume they are based on Youtube and Vimeo, where a lot of videos are now released and made for. ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/50 "2013-08-28T17:15:46Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I’m embarrassed to say that, as a result of the coverage, I had to google “twerking.” Which shouldn’t be done from your work computer, btw. And get off my lawn! I only learned the word “twerking” a few months ago. I knew what the dance was, but I didn’t know it had a name. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/51 "2013-08-28T17:19:06Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > …one of their fading investments? Like her or not, there’s nothing fading about her. She is a huge star just now. ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/52 "2013-08-28T17:22:03Z")
> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#): > > What’s the difference between ‘slut-shaming’ and pointing out that dance moves looked completely slutty? When does my opinion on the whole phenomenon of dirty dancing become ‘slut-shaming’ > > I’m afraid I’m totally confused. If you’re equating slutty with shameful, you’re probably slut-shaming. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/53 "2013-08-28T17:28:05Z")
> [@MegaBee](#): > > I only learned the word “twerking” a few months ago. I knew what the dance was, but I didn’t know it had a name. We always called it ‘booty poppin’. I started hearing that ‘twerk’ word a few years ago, as southern Hip hop became more popular. I still call it booty poppin’, the internet’s embrace of the word ‘twerk’ notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/54 "2013-08-28T17:30:33Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > We always called it ‘booty poppin’. I started hearing that ‘twerk’ word a few years ago, as southern Hip hop became more popular. I still call it booty poppin’, the internet’s embrace of the word ‘twerk’ notwithstanding. Booty poppin’! I would’ve recognized that term. Is it a north/south divide in terminology? ---
**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/55 "2013-08-28T17:41:32Z")
So, number of months after 21st birthday but before first sex tape = what? ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/56 "2013-08-28T17:41:43Z")
We always called it that. My whole life. It’s been out forever, of course. In the 80s we might call it "doin’ the butt’ or ‘poppin’ that coochie’ or whatever, but booty poppin’ is the name that most fits that particular style that Miley was attempting. When the South started getting super hot on the hip hop scene a few years ago, I started hearing the term “twerk”. I never liked Southern Hip hop much (a couple exceptions) and I don’t like Southern slang, so that word will always sound off to me. Like I said, I mostly hear it on the internet. No one I know in real life uses it, but I live on the East coast. It’s the same ol’ dance though. Josephine Baker was doing it ages ago and Africans have been doing it for ages before that. It’s just the word ‘twerk’ that I don’t dig. ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/57 "2013-08-28T17:45:04Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > We always called it that. My whole life. It’s been out forever, of course. In the 80s we might call it "doin’ the butt’ or ‘poppin’ that coochie’ or whatever, but booty poppin’ is the name that most fits that particular style that Miley was attempting. When the South started getting super hot on the hip hop scene a few years ago, I started hearing the term “twerk”. I never liked Southern Hip hop much (a couple exceptions) and I don’t like Southern slang, so that word will always sound off to me. Like I said, I mostly hear it on the internet. No one I know in real life uses it, but I live on the East coast. It’s the same ol’ dance though. Josephine Baker was doing it ages ago and Africans have been doing it for ages before that. It’s just the word ‘twerk’ that I don’t dig. My experience parallels yours. ---
**Author:** ![Eugene\_of\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c37758/32.png) [@Eugene\_of\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eugene_of_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/58 "2013-08-28T22:28:19Z")
Man, I hope nobody asks her to do the national anthem. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/59 "2013-08-28T22:46:33Z")
No one has worshiped and sacrificed more at the altar of caliphygious womanhood than have I, but I’ve personally never found booty-quaking/twerking especially erotic, and I always thought it’s supposed to be a goof on sexuality, like playing ring toss with an erection. I guess I am old. Certainly, my last “how many beer mugs can I lift off the table at once” contest was long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/60 "2013-08-29T01:05:40Z")
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