# There are currently SIX article on the Huffpo regarding Miley's performance at the VMAs

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 27, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343 "2013-08-27T23:18:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/141 "2013-09-10T16:19:45Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Your first post in third thread was a diatribe _directed at Miley Cyrus_. It’s very unlikely that Miley Cyrus is a reader of the SDMB. So I’m not sure you’re in a good position to be chastising anyone.

This is somewhat disingenuous. One assumes that posts directed at celebrities on a message board not known to be frequented by celebrities are in essence open letters aimed at the board’s readership.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/142 "2013-09-10T16:25:37Z")

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> [@CLee](#):
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> Her new NSFW video is here on Vevo: http:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2FRPA3Gf8
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> You had me for a couple seconds with the crying, then you licked a mallet. And cried again. What, you expected the mallet to respect you after that blow job? Why oh why didn’t you make friends with Pharrel, Timbaland, or even Missy? Who is producing you and encouraging you to play out this manic phase in front of everyone? Did you kill his or her dog? Because someone is totally squandering your talent and having a huge laugh about the fallout. Take a vacation and a break from the camera for a couple years. We’ll give you another chance, we promise, because we remember this: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw)

Nah.

Were you the guy who yelled “Judas!” at Bob Dylan?

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/143 "2013-09-10T16:27:25Z")

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Well, at least she wasn’t twerking in the new video.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/144 "2013-09-10T16:28:47Z")

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Incidentally, her new video hit [15 million page views in under 24 hours](http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2013/09/10/miley-cyrus-wrecking-ball-demolishes-page-view-record/2791867/), “demolishing” the Vevo single day record.

What a screwup.

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**Author:** ![CLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@CLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CLee)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/145 "2013-09-10T16:46:22Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Nah.
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> Were you the guy who yelled “Judas!” at Bob Dylan?

Nah, and I’m not the dumbass who shouts “Play Freebird” at every Skynard concert, nor the one who insists that Mike Doughty play SuperBonBon at his quiet solo shows. I’ll give her another chance, over and over, and watch her lick tools and laugh at her critics (the paid ones) as the money rolls in. She’ll hit her stride again, but not before SNL hires a new cast member expressly to portray Miley’s current slightly unsanitary incarnation.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/146 "2013-09-10T19:23:36Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Incidentally, her new video hit [15 million page views in under 24 hours](http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2013/09/10/miley-cyrus-wrecking-ball-demolishes-page-view-record/2791867/), “demolishing” the Vevo single day record.
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> What a screwup.

Exactly. It’s not like anyone was claiming Miley Cyrus was the epitome of musical talent before this video. If we accept that she was always a simple a pop star, then how could getting 15 million views for her video be seen as a failure?

Miley Cyrus licking a sledgehammer is apparently exactly what everyone wants to see. The only people upset by it are the parents who let pop music stars raise their children and now have to do some parenting of their own.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/147 "2013-09-10T19:45:32Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> The only people upset by it are the parents who let pop music stars raise their children and now have to do some parenting of their own.

Bingo. The complaints are almost entirely from people who are baffled and confused that Miley Cyrus’s adult pop singer persona is not like the nice-girl-teeny-bopper character Disney made her play on “Hannah Montana.”

Honestly, would there be so much gnashing of teeth if Miley had emerged as a break-out pop sensation, rather than as a former product of a lame children’s program?

To me, it’s run of the mill pop singer nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/148 "2013-09-10T21:29:28Z")

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> [@Alan\_Smithee](#):
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> In 50 years people will think the same thing about little girls twerking.

It’s already happening. Here’s a video of a little girl twerking on a little boy.

Breaking link since Youtube wants you to be logged in to see it because people have flagged it.

[http://w](http://w) w [w.youtube.com/watch?v=NyDiPsEgNdU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch\_query%3Dlittle%2Bgirls%2Btwerking](http://w.youtube.com/watch?v=NyDiPsEgNdU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dlittle%2Bgirls%2Btwerking)

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/149 "2013-09-11T02:47:21Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Bingo. The complaints are almost entirely from people who are baffled and confused that Miley Cyrus’s adult pop singer persona is not like the nice-girl-teeny-bopper character Disney made her play on “Hannah Montana.”

Nope. I have no idea what Hannah Montana was even about.

That performance was atrocious on so many levels it wasn’t even funny. Had nothing to do with whatever she did as a child star.

I rather liked the Wrecking Ball video. The song, meh. Throwaway pop song. The video…well, let’s just say that if I were a heterosexual male, I’d be in my bunk right now. Hell, I just may be in my bunk anyway. :eek:  
POP QUIZ!

If you want to shed your teenybopper image without making a laughingstock of yourself, should you  
a. twerk on teddy bears and jerk around the stage in an orange latex bikini with your tongue hanging out  
b. Strip and swing around on a wrecking ball  
c. All of the above.

She shoulda gone with b.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/150 "2013-09-11T09:23:34Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> I rather liked the Wrecking Ball video. The song, meh. Throwaway pop song.

I will say that “Wrecking Ball” is at least a much better song than “We Can’t Stop”. Musically, anyway. I wasn’t paying much attention to the lyrics when I had naked Miley on my screen 😛

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/151 "2013-09-11T14:14:35Z")

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I don’t know a whole lot about the music/entertainment industry. But I know that there is a crap ton of money on the line.

Just how much of what goes on on stage gets planned?

It seems to me that with millions of bucks on the line, a company (record company? TV network? live show concert-production company?) is going to want to protect whatever they invested in the show, plus protecting their future earnings by making sure as little as possible is left UNplanned and UNcertain.

In other words: Just how much do you think this is all a carefully orchestrated corporate-driven “rebranding” of this performers image, as opposed to the artist herself now stretching her legs?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/152 "2013-09-11T14:31:59Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Bingo. The complaints are almost entirely from people who are baffled and confused that Miley Cyrus’s adult pop singer persona is not like the nice-girl-teeny-bopper character Disney made her play on “Hannah Montana.”

> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Nope. I have no idea what Hannah Montana was even about.

Notice the words “almost entirely”? Those words–do note–suggest the possibility of an exception or two. Such as yourself, apparently.

Go back and read through the thread, and you will see that most of the complaints are from the people who knew, or who knew vicariously through their children, Hannah Montana. Similarly true with, for example, the outrage and consternation found elsewhere on the Interwebtubes. For example, as I mentioned in my earlier post where I reacted to someone I know on Facebook. People, for the most part if they’re complaining, have been bemoaning the change from the nice girl to the new (pick your label of sexual shaming) persona.

Whatever _you_ think of the VMA performance, it certainly made an enormous impression, which is _exactly_ what Miley Cyrus wanted.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/153 "2013-09-11T16:25:58Z")

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> [@mlees](#):
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> Just how much of what goes on on stage gets planned?

99.99%

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/154 "2013-09-11T17:10:01Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Go back and read through the thread, and you will see that most of the complaints are from the people who knew, or who knew vicariously through their children, Hannah Montana.

FWIW, I’ve never seen an episode of Hannah Montana (way too old to be part of the target audience, no kids, and no television besides). My first exposure to Miley was the late-teenage pop singing portion of her career.

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> 99.99%

Yeah, I read that the majority of her performance was planned and practiced but once it went live she took it a little further. Robin Thicke is supposedly mad and if so it’s because of Mileys’ improve which I suspect is the crotch rubbing with the foam finger.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-currently-six-article-on-the-huffpo-regarding-mileys-performance-at-the-vmas/667343/156 "2013-09-11T18:22:58Z")

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The whole thing, including the outraged pundits who then get to show the salacious clips of the performance and the “news” websites that get to show the T&A while pretending to be outraged, is just show business. None of it is any more real or unscripted than an episode of Gilligan’s Island.

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