# There are no Gays here. Move Along.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 23, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733 "2003-12-23T22:25:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/21 "2003-12-24T02:17:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*Please, no speculation on what that 20 foot gay monument would look like. :eek: \*\*

But don’t we already have an [Enormous Penis Statue](http://bensguide.gpo.gov/3-5/symbols/print/wmonument_pool.html) displayed prominently on public land?

Not that we can’t make room for another. There’s always room for a giant penis, I always say…

Er. Did I phrase that badly?😃

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/22 "2003-12-24T02:25:49Z")

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Firstly, I find the decision in the OP absolutely ridiculous and offensive. In recent years, the March on Washington has been one of the consistently biggest protest utilizing the Lincoln Memorial. To cut out this fact is preposterous and turns history into whitewashed propaganda. Historians at least attempt to report truefact not goodfact.

Secondly, to those whining about seperation of Church and state, to my knowledge no lawsuit has ever been won simply on the grounds of a religious monument being put on public property. Rather, the grounds would be the refusal of said public officials to allow the construction on equal grounds of monuments to any other religion which wished to install one.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/23 "2003-12-24T02:26:29Z")

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In the spirit of Christmas, let us demonstrate our love of the Savior by the depth of our contempt for gay people.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/24 "2003-12-24T02:35:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by EddyTeddyFreddy \*  
> \*\*SOCAS = separation of church and state.
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Ah! Thank you! I was sitting here for, like 20 minutes going over acronyms and even making up new ones (SOCAS= Stupid OverCoat Assisted Sex? No…). Don’t know why I never stumbled over the right one.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/25 "2003-12-24T02:37:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*[sub]Please, no speculation on what that 20 foot gay monument would look like.[/sub] :eek: \*\*

_raises hand_ I could design that!..

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/26 "2003-12-24T02:39:43Z")

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Coupla things.

- The link no longer connects to a story mentioned in the OP. I tried doing a search at the main Advocate site and came up emty as well.

- Also tried looking at the web site for “Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility”([www.peer.org](http://www.peer.org)) to see if there was a mention there . The site was down when I checked.

- I also tried to independently verify the story through a Google search and came up nada.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a story verification? The story may or may not be true…but the Advocate **is** an advocacy group for its position. If I quoted a piece from say the National Right To Life group, I suspect folks would want some independent verification. 😉

TIA

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**Author:** ![Siegfried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Siegfried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siegfried)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/27 "2003-12-24T02:47:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FisherQueen \*  
> \*\*But don’t we already have an [Enormous Penis Statue](http://bensguide.gpo.gov/3-5/symbols/print/wmonument_pool.html) displayed prominently on public land?
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> Not that we can’t make room for another. There’s always room for a giant penis, I always say…
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> Er. Did I phrase that badly?😃 \*\*

[completely random thoughts]  
You know, it’d suck to have a penis as sharp and pointy as the Washington Monument is. I mean, get too involved in the passion and you’ve accidentally skewered your lover. If my penis were like that, I’d be like Pinocchio in a demented session of masturbation: taking the sandpaper to ol’ Woody.  
[/completely random thoughts]

On the topic at hand, this is truly a ridiculous decision, in my opinion. Per the article linked in the OP (which is now [here](http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=10835&sd=12/24/03-12/29/03)):

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> The conservative groups asked that footage of gay rights, pro-choice, and anti-Vietnam War demonstrations be excised because it implies that “Lincoln would have supported homosexual and abortion ‘rights’ as well as feminism,” PEER said.

How can we really know for sure what Lincoln would and wouldn’t have supported? Furthermore, does it really matter? The Lincoln Memorial has a history of being the stage for popular and unpopular demostrations. This really strikes me as being bizarre.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/28 "2003-12-24T02:48:22Z")

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Well I did some more rooting around and found another link to the story.

This one is from the [Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A19844-2003Nov9&notFound=true).

Actually the story dates back to November 10th. It’d be interesting to see what the current status of the story is.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/29 "2003-12-24T02:51:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*No, anyone who wants to put up a cross on state property while _excluding_ the speech of others is an anti-American dickweed. \*\*

**DTS** , Don’t you think anyone who wants to take down an American, secular, holiday symbol, because it hurts their widdle feelings, is an anti-American dickweed? I do.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/30 "2003-12-24T03:02:06Z")

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Oh, come off it, **milroy**. We all know you don’t think.

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/31 "2003-12-24T03:02:59Z")

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[Better link to article](http://advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=10835&sd=12/24/03-12/29/03)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/32 "2003-12-24T03:08:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> [sub]Please, no speculation on what that 20 foot gay monument would look like.[/sub] :eek:

Can we at least assume it will be _faaaabulous?_

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/33 "2003-12-24T03:19:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\ ***DTS** , Don’t you think anyone who wants to take down an American, secular, holiday symbol, because it hurts their widdle feelings, is an anti-American dickweed? I do. \*\*

Example?

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/34 "2003-12-24T03:20:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*Oh, come off it, **milroy**. We all know you don’t think. \*\*

Sure I do. I think you’re an idiot, for example. Will that be all?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/35 "2003-12-24T03:26:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\ ***DTS** , Don’t you think anyone who wants to take down an American, secular, holiday symbol, because it hurts their widdle feelings, is an anti-American dickweed? I do. \*\*

Example?

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/36 "2003-12-24T03:29:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*Example? \*\*

Sure.

[http://www.indystar.com/articles/3/099281-9963-127.html](http://www.indystar.com/articles/3/099281-9963-127.html)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/37 "2003-12-24T03:34:52Z")

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Christmas trees are neither American nor secular.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/38 "2003-12-24T03:37:09Z")

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Why do right wingers resort to name calling so often?

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/39 "2003-12-24T03:41:36Z")

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SOCAS: Separation of Church and Sasquatch.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/40 "2003-12-24T03:42:09Z")

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[http://www.christmasarchives.com/trees.html](http://www.christmasarchives.com/trees.html)

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