# There are no Gays here. Move Along.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 23, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733 "2003-12-23T22:25:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/41 "2003-12-24T03:42:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> \*\*Christmas trees are neither American nor secular. \*\*

Not originally American, no, but then again what is?

Secular, according to the SCOTUS, since you didn’t bother to read the article.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/42 "2003-12-24T03:44:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*Why do right wingers resort to name calling so often? \*\*

What “name-calling” are you refering to?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/43 "2003-12-24T03:47:34Z")

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> _Originally posted by milroyj_  
> \*\*  
> What “name-calling” are you refering to?\*\*

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*Sure I do. I think you’re an idiot, for example. Will that be all? \*\*

Of course being called an idiot by milroyj is like being called short by Gary Coleman.

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**Author:** ![DebiJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@DebiJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DebiJ)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/44 "2003-12-24T03:48:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NoClueBoy \*  
> \*\*Oh! The ELECTIONS! :smack:
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> I thought you guys had messed up the Mayan calendar.
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> Carry on. Nothing to see here. \*\*

NoClueBoy, NEVER post again while I’m drinking anything. You owe me a keyboard! _wiping tea off monitor_

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/45 "2003-12-24T03:48:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*Sure I do. I think you’re an idiot, for example. Will that be all? \*\*

This one.

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**Author:** ![NBIT33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NBIT33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NBIT33)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/46 "2003-12-24T03:49:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*Not originally American, no, but then again what is?
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Slamball!

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/47 "2003-12-24T03:56:50Z")

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Wow baby!

Only took you four years to hit 125 posts!

Pick up the pace a bit will you?

🙂

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/48 "2003-12-24T03:57:46Z")

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Well since we’re now quibbling with secondary points of the OP, I guess we can all agree what the Park Service allegedly did would be a _bad thing_?

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**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/49 "2003-12-24T03:59:01Z")

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This is just so much more of the Bush lackey mentality. Inside the beltway those goobers spend their time trying to “out-Bush” each other. Now, the Park Service gets in the act spending Park Service money re-doing a fucking video. Wonder how much they’ll spend or have spent on this little project. And what will be accomplished? NaDa. Fucking morons.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/50 "2003-12-24T04:03:39Z")

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Now why is every one jumping all over **milroyj** when he was only retaliating against **Miller’s** slam against his thinking abilities? I think we can all agree that **Miller** was the most cruel and the most wrong in this instance. We all know how much the truth hurts.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/51 "2003-12-24T04:03:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*This one. \*\*

The one preceded by:

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> \*\*Oh, come off it, milroy. We all know you don’t think.

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So where’s your outrage about **Miller’s** resorting to name-calling??? You conveniently skipped that, and went directly to calling out “right-wingers”.

No wonder I don’t take you seriously. At least you’re consistent, guess I should give you credit for that.

Feliz Navidad.

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**Author:** ![DebiJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@DebiJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DebiJ)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/52 "2003-12-24T04:06:45Z")

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Reeder,

You say it all for the both of us.

I don’t even need to post.  
😃

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**Author:** ![DebiJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@DebiJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DebiJ)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/53 "2003-12-24T04:07:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Priam \*  
> **To cut out this fact is preposterous and turns history into whitewashed propaganda. Historians at least attempt to report truefact not goodfact.**

And this has never happened before in the US?

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> \*Originally posted by Priam \*\*\*Secondly, to those whining about seperation of Church and state, to my knowledge no lawsuit has ever been won simply on the grounds of a religious monument being put on public property. Rather, the grounds would be the refusal of said public officials to allow the construction on equal grounds of monuments to any other religion which wished to install one. \*\*

Gee, how did you miss the 10 Commandments suit?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/54 "2003-12-24T04:09:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*The one preceded by:
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> So where’s your outrage about **Miller’s** resorting to name-calling??? You conveniently skipped that, and went directly to calling out “right-wingers”.
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> No wonder I don’t take you seriously. At least you’re consistent, guess I should give you credit for that.
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> Feliz Navidad. \*\*

Perhaps it’s an insult. But I see no juvenile name calling there.

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**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/55 "2003-12-24T04:16:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DebiJ \*  
> \*\*And this has never happened before in the US?

Happened before does not = right. Any documentary which deliberately (note that word because there’s no such thing as unbiased works) slants the truth as is known for the sake of outside forces becomes flat-out propaganda. I detest it where I can see it, although I’ve probably fallen victim to it as well.

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> Gee, how did you miss the 10 Commandments suit? \*\*

Gee how did you miss the part where Moore flat out said that he would not himself allow another statue regarding different religions in the court? His stance was that only the Ten Commandments were the law’s roots and thus any other statue had no place there. Thus, the statue got yanked as violating SOCAS. At least thats my understanding of the case as it took place.

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/56 "2003-12-24T04:26:45Z")

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This is just silly. “We all know you don’t think” **isn’t** juvenile name calling?

How did you miss that, but then state “Why do right wingers resort to name calling so often?”

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/57 "2003-12-24T04:41:31Z")

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Calling you what you are is an insult?

It really bothers you to be called a right winger?

If the shoe fits…

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/58 "2003-12-24T05:11:35Z")

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Never mind, **Reeder** , you’re dumber than a box of rocks.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/59 "2003-12-24T06:12:36Z")

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**milroyj** , when come back, bring point.

Thankyoudrivethroughplease.  
Now, good night, people.

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2003, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-no-gays-here-move-along/220733/60 "2003-12-24T10:56:29Z")

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Has anyone else noticed that it’s not just footage of gay rights demonstrations which have been removed from this video, but also footage of pro-choice demonstrations, anti-Vietnam war demonstrations and pro-feminist demonstrations? _Sheesh_!!! It’s a wonder they’re allowing footage of civil rights demonstrations in there, although I suspect they would have had a harder time arguing Lincoln would not have supported them.

Also, much as I admire Lincoln, his presidency was the one which suppressed the rights of the American people more than any other one. Admittedly, there was cause for this, but he did suspend rights such as habeas corpus, etc.

I grew up in a town in which a lot of people had the mindset, “if you don’t look just like us and think like us, you’re worthless and don’t deserve to be heard.” As a result I’ve very little regard for that mindset. These things happened. They’re part of American history, whether you regard them as highly as America’s participation in the Berlin Airlift or as lowly as the interment camps during World War II. If history, or at least its depiction, is rewritten to match the views of one group, then it is no more than propoganda, and I expect better of my adopted home.

CJ

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