# There are scumbags and then there are these guys.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 18, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864 "2010-03-18T11:49:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/41 "2010-03-21T21:12:29Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Well, in [this short article describing the arrest of scumbag #2](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/782828--second-man-wanted-in-hospital-thefts-arrested), the police are quoted as saying that the two dirtballs’ ‘MO’ was to case palliative care wards.

Ok, then they are indeed especial scumbags as described in the OP. The OP wanted me to believe these characters were beyond scumbags for stealing from a dying woman, yet offered no indication that they willfully chose to steal from same.

[QUOTE=Manduck]  
Are you really defending them??  
[/QUOTE]

Duh huh?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/42 "2010-03-28T17:28:49Z")

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> [@Tethered\_Kite](#):
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> Another result of moral relativism.

‘Moral relativism’ means refraining from killing people just because they have different opinions. In fact, it means recognizing that those who have different opinions and/or skin tone _are_ people.

Please try again with more intelligence.

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/43 "2010-03-28T18:17:19Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> I notice that this occurred in a Canadian hospital.
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> Someone, somewhere, is going to use this as a knock against healthcare reform.

By the time it winds up on Glenn Beck, they’ll be workers from the Canadian Death Panels.

Additional comment on security - unlike most businesses, hospitals have sick people, and therefore sick people’s families, everywhere. It would be almost impossible to keep track of who’s who and restrict people to certain spots. Plus a lot of hospital staff - including me - rarely wear their ID, because they work in one spot, all the time. I spent one year with a range of about 4 rooms and a hallway deep in the basement in the dark nestled up to a computer, so making sure I had ID that noone ever checked got to be a low priority pretty fast.  
Oh, and let me add: Bastards.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/44 "2010-03-28T19:14:43Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> ‘Moral relativism’ means refraining from killing people just because they have different opinions. In fact, it means recognizing that those who have different opinions and/or skin tone _are_ people.
> 
> Please try again with more intelligence.

Ya know, Ted Bundy might have had a damn good reason for killing all those coeds. Who am I to say? 😛

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/45 "2010-03-29T16:05:41Z")

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> [@Beadalin](#):
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> Frankly, sentimental and beautiful items can be of comfort when you’re ill – they’re a reminder of who you are, who you’ve been, and the people who love you.
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> Blaming the family, or the woman, for having the jewelry with her is stupid and mean.

This. Blame the robbers. What is it with this board, that SOME people continually blame the victim, and don’t have anthing to say about the “scumbag side of the equation” ???

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/46 "2010-03-29T22:05:34Z")

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> [@pantheon](#):
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> “Police say the family had just left the woman’s bedside vigil to get some coffee when the robbers struck. They alerted the police when the family returned and noticed some misplaced items.”
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> \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ alerted the police
> 
> a) robbers  
> b) police  
> c) family  
> d) pronouns- you’re doing it wrong

It was the robbers – they not only took the dying woman’s jewelry, but they stole the reporteer’s sense of proper syntax! 😛

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/47 "2010-03-29T22:25:47Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> It was the robbers – they not only took the dying woman’s jewelry, but they stole the reporteer’s sense of proper syntax! 😛

Those basteerds!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/48 "2010-03-29T23:06:22Z")

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> [@Tethered\_Kite](#):
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> Oh dear. New here, old man. I think I goofed.
> 
> S’posed to say sumpin unkind here, right?
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> A pox on those rotten kids!

As someone who spent a long time caring for a loved one, I think you said it just right! You blooming bleeding git.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/49 "2010-03-29T23:08:54Z")

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From the first guy’s Facebook page (thanks internet!):

> [@](#):
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> there is so much about me,the good and the bad.the truth is untill two months ago the bad of me was much more then the good.today im happy to say that all the bad of me was left behind,and a new person is here to stay for good:) im in school right now working on my GED to get a high school diploma and after my plans are to continue studying in cologe or university. im honest and i have a good heart witch somtimes gets me in truble.i like to meet people and go out alot even if its just to hang out for a cup of coffee.i love to sleep and i love my bed very much and even much more when im not alone in it!!!

Hope all 20 of his friends are smart enough to drop him.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-scumbags-and-then-there-are-these-guys/532864/50 "2010-03-30T19:52:11Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Can’t take it with her.

well, thanks to these guys, we will never know now, will we? 🙂

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