# There are too many attractive people in TV/Movies now

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**Created:** [January 5, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272 "2016-01-05T22:18:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/41 "2016-01-07T20:23:00Z")

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I have been observing the same trend as the OP, for a perfect example consider the difference in level of beauty of Carrie Fisher in the original Star Wars vs. Daisy Ridley in the current incarnation. Carrie is/was certainly cute in a 1970’s sort of way, but no one would have cast her as the generic pretty girl. Whereas Daisy Ridley is definitely more conventionally pretty.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/42 "2016-01-07T20:34:21Z")

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how about extras - you see a normal mall or street in the US and the majority are fat or obese. Turn on the tv and even the crowd has lost 30lb each.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/43 "2016-01-07T20:41:28Z")

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Another problem with the Hollywood hotness inflation is that conventionally beautiful people often don’t look particularly interesting.  
[Old Sarah Connor vs new Sarah Connor.](http://img.r7.com/images/2015/06/03/1lgi499zbk_25lx9qtplg_file.jpg?dimensions=780x536&no_crop=true)

The new one is basically just “generic Hollywood pretty girl”. There seems to be a lot of those running around. It’s like there’s a factory churning them out, or something.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/44 "2016-01-07T20:42:43Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Please eliminate three. I am not a crackpot.

Standard terms and price…?\*

\*void where prohibited by law. Dammit, where’s a Cusack when you need him?

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/45 "2016-01-07T22:11:12Z")

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In the US even our politicians have consultants and specialists to help them look better. John Kerry was known for his Botox. When is the last time you saw a truly unattractive presidential candidate?

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/46 "2016-01-07T22:19:56Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> So, in _Mad Max,_ having super hot actresses works fine, because it’s a plot point that these women are exceptionally beautiful, in-universe. Which is basically the opposite of what you usually see in most new movies, where a super hot actress is invariably cast even when the character is supposed to be an average, normal person.

Yeah, there’s definitely a lot of “Hollywood ugly” going on. I keep thinking of “The Big Bang Theory”, where the guys are I suppose, middlingly good looking, but the women are seriously good looking. Even Mayim Bialik, who’s not really movie-star hot, is still far hotter looking than a real-life Amy Farrah Fowler would be. And Melissa Rauch is entirely too hot for a character whose attractiveness isn’t a plot point or major character trait.

I can see casting Kaley Cuoco as Penny, in that the character is SUPPOSED to be hot. But the other two? There’s no reason they shouldn’t be overweight and/or ugly.

Or just about any other show on TV- EVERYONE is attractive, unless they’re specifically supposed to be ugly or old.

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**Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/47 "2016-01-07T22:39:03Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> In the US even our politicians have consultants and specialists to help them look better. John Kerry was known for his Botox. When is the last time you saw a truly unattractive presidential candidate?

You mean other than right now? Donald Trump? Bernie Sanders?

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/48 "2016-01-08T03:48:22Z")

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You can go back to the 1940s and 1950s when women like Gene Tierney and Jane Russell played 19th century outlaw Belle Starr who was U G L Y

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/49 "2016-01-08T08:55:36Z")

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> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#):
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> We’re living in a Golden Age of ugly leading men, like Oliver Platt and Elias Koteras from the **Chicago Fire/PD/Medical** trilogy. **Law & Order** and its spinoffs had a good mix of beautiful and plain-faced people. I consider **Homicide** a modern show, even though it’s been gone for 20 years, and their front-load of piss ugly character actors was a badge of pride for them. And about a third of all click-bait sites are about how horrible Lisa Rinna and Meg Ryan look after plastic surgery.

Darren McGavin and Jack Klugman disagree.

But seriously, the males in the Twilight series don’t even look human (I guess they arn’t eh!?)

Sure, handsome leads have been around forever. Shatner, Garner,…etc…and i do appreciate when stunningly good looking cast members try harder to be taken seriously, Jamie Bamber, Jeri Ryan, Andrew Lincoln…

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/50 "2016-01-08T09:09:42Z")

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At least for _Man in the High Castle_, I don’t see how this is the case. Juliana’s perfectly average, Frank looks like a nerdy hipster Millennial (considering how much of a cuck that is probably appropriate but rather odd nonetheless for an Axis victory world in 1962), the Nazi bigwigs (Wegener and Smith) and Mr. Tagomi are stolid middle-aged fellows. I suppose Inspector Kido might qualify as well as “Joe Blake” but for the latter, his acting should kill off any attraction for most people.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/51 "2016-01-08T10:10:17Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> considering how much of a **cuck** that is probably appropriate

Dude, still?

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/52 "2016-01-08T20:36:19Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Another problem with the Hollywood hotness inflation is that conventionally beautiful people often don’t look particularly interesting.  
> [Old Sarah Connor vs new Sarah Connor.](http://img.r7.com/images/2015/06/03/1lgi499zbk_25lx9qtplg_file.jpg?dimensions=780x536&no_crop=true)
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> The new one is basically just “generic Hollywood pretty girl”. There seems to be a lot of those running around. It’s like there’s a factory churning them out, or something.

This is another thing which is galling, is they have all these attractive people in some of these shows, and they make the character that less interesting or engaging, and alot more generic and as you say ‘factory’ produced.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/53 "2016-01-08T20:55:58Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> Another problem with the Hollywood hotness inflation is that conventionally beautiful people often don’t look particularly interesting.  
> [Old Sarah Connor vs new Sarah Connor.](http://img.r7.com/images/2015/06/03/1lgi499zbk_25lx9qtplg_file.jpg?dimensions=780x536&no_crop=true)
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> The new one is basically just “generic Hollywood pretty girl”. There seems to be a lot of those running around. It’s like there’s a factory churning them out, or something.

That’s not hotness inflation. That’s one movie on a small tight budget vs a movie that can afford a star from Game of Thrones as it’s lead. Terminator had a total budget of 6 million.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/54 "2016-01-08T22:37:48Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> The new one is basically just “generic Hollywood pretty girl”. There seems to be a lot of those running around. It’s like there’s a factory churning them out, or something.

Khalisi is not “generic”!

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/55 "2016-01-08T22:42:00Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> That’s not hotness inflation. That’s one movie on a small tight budget vs a movie that can afford a star from Game of Thrones as it’s lead. Terminator had a total budget of 6 million.

2 stars from Game of Thrones. Lena Henley played Sara Conner in the TV series (she wasn’t a GoT star yet though).

Also, Linda Hamilton is plenty attractive, 80s style.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/56 "2016-01-09T03:41:06Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Dude, still?

Agreed. Ammon Bundy shouldn’t be anyone’s erotic fiction role model.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/57 "2016-01-09T11:39:36Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Also, Linda Hamilton is plenty attractive, 80s style.

Yep. I mean, when they had to choose who to play the titular “Beauty” in “[Beauty and The Beas](http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/news/cw-develops-remake-linda-hamilton-s-beauty-and-the-beast.jpg)t”, they used her.

So [ordinary](http://www.celebritysizes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Linda-Hamilton.jpg)…

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/58 "2016-01-09T11:45:52Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> Agreed. Ammon Bundy shouldn’t be anyone’s erotic fiction role model.

Brain bleach…

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/59 "2016-01-09T17:35:15Z")

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This happens even in TV news, especially local news. Anchors and reporters are often very attractive, and when they interview people on location they seem to look for the best-looking people to put in front of the camera.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-are-too-many-attractive-people-in-tv-movies-now/742272/60 "2016-01-09T17:38:21Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> If you go to a Broadway show, and look at the pictures of the “unattractive” actresses in Playbill, you will see they are pretty much all gorgeous. Much easier to make an attractive person unattractive than the other way around.

Patty Lupone is by no means conventionally attractive, but gets many starring roles.

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