# There is a better way to moderate than this.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882>\
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**Created:** [October 17, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882 "2019-10-17T02:10:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/1 "2019-10-17T02:10:05Z")

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> [@The Trump Impeachment Inquiry](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-impeachment-inquiry/840771/2858):
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> That’ll earn you a warning, running coach. You should know better than such.
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> EVERYONE: One more issue in this thread and it’s closed and I won’t let you open another one for several days. If you can’t control yourself, take ti to the Pit.

It is not reasonable to respond to a few folks breaking the rules by saying, “I won’t let you open a thread” on one of the most important topics in our country. Moderate the folks breaking the rules, but leave this thread open for discussion.

And please pay attention to folks both who break the rules outright, and who sealion.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/2 "2019-10-17T02:28:03Z")

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Wut?

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/3 "2019-10-17T02:31:34Z")

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Without even seeing a link I can already say I don’t like this new fad in modding around here where the mods determine what is and is not worthy of its own thread for discussion, when did this place become so draconian?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/4 "2019-10-17T03:05:04Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> And please pay attention to folks both who break the rules outright, and who sealion.

And those who are [doing both](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21883462#post21883462).

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/5 "2019-10-17T03:40:35Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Wut?

If you’re asking about sealioning, try the [Sealion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=883710)thread. You can’t tell the animals without a scorecard.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/6 "2019-10-17T03:53:54Z")

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**LHOD** , it’s a bit hard to click the blue arrow in the quote box when you’re on a phone. As a courtesy tip other posters, I pasted a link to the post.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21920704&postcount=2857](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21920704&postcount=2857)

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**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/7 "2019-10-17T06:44:25Z")

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Sealioning is not a thing. It’s a manufactured ‘offence’ designed to shut down debate.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/8 "2019-10-17T07:44:17Z")

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Sealioning is a a real thing, and is itself a technique designed to stifle debate.

I am, however, going to start using the made-up term “lighthousing”, which is when someone is clearly projecting so hard, you can expect to see it from several miles away.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/9 "2019-10-17T12:21:39Z")

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Damn. I thought this was going to be about robots.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/10 "2019-10-17T13:55:52Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> It is not reasonable to respond to a few folks breaking the rules by saying, “I won’t let you open a thread” on one of the most important topics in our country. Moderate the folks breaking the rules, but leave this thread open for discussion.
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> And please pay attention to folks both who break the rules outright, and who sealion.

Sealionification of a thread is a thing now? Lol. Who knew moderation via referencing meme comics would be desirable?

You know the better way is? Not abusing other posters.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/11 "2019-10-17T14:38:45Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> It is not reasonable to respond to a few folks breaking the rules by saying, “I won’t let you open a thread” on one of the most important topics in our country. Moderate the folks breaking the rules, but leave this thread open for discussion.
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> And please pay attention to folks both who break the rules outright, and who sealion.

I agree this was unreasonable moderation. There is a poster in this thread whose sole purpose is to deflect from the actual debate in question. They are posting deliberately obtuse and willfully blind garbage in order to move the debate away from a topic that is very uncomfortable for them. They are baiting others.

And when someone responds to the bait?

Then the moderator threatens to shut down the debate, thus given the person EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.

Great. All this will do is encourage others to do exactly the same thing to shut down debate. In fact, here are some of them now, vigorously defending this shitty tactic.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/12 "2019-10-17T15:14:54Z")

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My main request isn’t about sea-lioning. It’s about moderating people who are actually breaking rules (sealioning or otherwise), not threatening the whole class with silent lunch because of a couple of yahoos.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/13 "2019-10-17T15:28:22Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I agree this was unreasonable moderation. There is a poster in this thread whose sole purpose is to deflect from the actual debate in question. They are posting deliberately obtuse and willfully blind garbage in order to move the debate away from a topic that is very uncomfortable for them. They are baiting others.
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> And when someone responds to the bait?
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> Then the moderator threatens to shut down the debate, thus given the person EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.
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> Great. All this will do is encourage others to do exactly the same thing to shut down debate. In fact, here are some of them now, vigorously defending this shitty tactic.

Agree 100%.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/14 "2019-10-17T15:32:59Z")

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> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#):
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> Sealioning is not a thing. It’s a manufactured ‘offence’ designed to shut down debate.

What do you mean, “manufactured?” Who made it up?

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**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/15 "2019-10-17T17:45:51Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> What do you mean, “manufactured?” Who made it up?

I’m unsure, specifically. Could you please explain why this would be relevant?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/16 "2019-10-17T17:50:18Z")

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Sealioning is a thing. There’s a poster here who has been told by a mod not to do it. So, it’s totally, you know, a thing.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/17 "2019-10-17T18:05:08Z")

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> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#):
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> I’m unsure, specifically. Could you please explain why this would be relevant?

You claimed that it was manufactured, therefore you made it relevant…or your claim was irrelevant.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/18 "2019-10-17T18:27:18Z")

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> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#):
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> Sealioning is not a thing. It’s a manufactured ‘offence’ designed to shut down debate.

> [@Ravenman](#):
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> What do you mean, “manufactured?” Who made it up?

> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#):
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> I’m unsure, specifically. Could you please explain why this would be relevant?

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You claimed that it was manufactured, therefore you made it relevant…or your claim was irrelevant.

Yes, I would also like to see proof that sealioning is a made-up thing. That’s quite a claim.

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**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/19 "2019-10-17T18:29:01Z")

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Before I do this, could you please explain the relevance of the question? I’m not sure I see it.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-a-better-way-to-moderate-than-this/841882/20 "2019-10-17T18:29:11Z")

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Wait, is that irony? Am I whooshed? I never can tell anymore.  
(ie: was that sarcastic sealioning?)

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