# There is something out there **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 16, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889 "2024-10-16T22:35:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/61 "2024-10-18T13:29:57Z")
Yeah, I would never shoot any animal unless it was a direct threat to me or others. As in happening RIGHT NOW. Bears have torn off the door to my tool shed twice. The second time I replaced it seems to have worked. I used oak, just get claw marks now. > [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > I would like to know more about this. What did she do? And how much did her training help in that situation? Sounds terrifying. It was terrifying I’m sure. She stood her ground, faced them as much as she could, and yelled her head off. She said she should have thrown rocks, but that would mean exposing yourself when you bend to pick them up. As far as training? Well ~38 years ago she was an animal control officer. She’s not big at 5’1" and 115 lbs. I’m not sure exactly what training she went through, But I’m sure she has handled some unruly animals. At one point they thought about giving animal control officers weapons. Pistols or revolvers. They all said that they would have to be paid a lot more to do that. If you need that, you need the Sheriffs Office involved. Once when taking 8 (mix of cats and dogs) or so animals to Denver 100 miles away the county car, a Suburban caught fire. She rescued all the animals and they where safe. The Suburban, not so much. It was probably kind of a scary job. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/62 "2024-10-18T13:40:12Z")
There have been millions of cats who have stared at walls and at apparently nothing for centuries. Most of them may have been insects and other creatures unnoticed by us but statistically at least once it must have really been a ghost. I think, maybe. Right? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/63 "2024-10-18T15:30:50Z")
People have also been making horrible interior decorating changes for centuries. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/64 "2024-10-18T17:14:21Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Yeah, I would never shoot any animal unless it was a direct threat to me or others. As in happening RIGHT NOW. I almost completely agree… but I admit that I adore my furry little house panthers. I think that if it ever happened (avert avert avert) I might be tempted to do something to save them from an animal attack, although in almost any circumstance it would be too late. Thankfully my cats are all indoors, or at most on the catio. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/65 "2024-10-18T17:33:29Z")
The ‘others’ are also my dogs. But I don’t want to carry anyway. That’s where the bear spray comes in. In the house, a .357 or .45 would make me more deaf than I already am. But that would be my choice. Kinda scary about that guy that got mauled in his house by a bear. That was a week or so ago. [Lake City Colorado](https://www.africahunting.com/threads/marlin-336-er-356-win-1600.78948/). What is interesting, is that wildlife is returning. I remember years ago that the dogs went to defcon 1 and I looked out the window. I said to me wife "There is a horse in our yard. It was a moose, licking the road salt off my car (my contacts where not in so a bit fuzzy) Bear have not tried for our house. The dogs are usually a great alarm system. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/66 "2024-10-18T18:24:06Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Kinda scary about that guy that got mauled in his house by a bear. That was a week or so ago. [Lake City Colorado](https://www.africahunting.com/threads/marlin-336-er-356-win-1600.78948/) So this was about the right to bear arms? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/67 "2024-10-18T18:35:30Z")
That falls a little flat @DavidNRockies . This is serious stuff. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/68 "2024-10-18T18:41:26Z")
As one who posted a link to that very story on [**Beowulff’s thread**](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bear-with-me/1004418), I totally agree. Which is why I raised some question about the webpage to which your link directs us: > **[Marlin 336 ER 356 Win - $1600](https://www.africahunting.com/threads/marlin-336-er-356-win-1600.78948/)** > > Marlin 336 ER 356 Win in excellent condition. This particular model was only manufactured for 2 year in the early 80s and just over 2,000 were made, making them among the rarest of Marlin rifles. It’s chambered in 356 Winchester which has the same... ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/69 "2024-10-18T18:45:25Z")
never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/70 "2024-10-18T19:25:30Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It might have been an insect; cat vision is much better at motion tracking than human vision, and they can often see small flying insects that humans have trouble noticing. That’s a common reason for cats staring at something “invisible”. And they have better hearing than us. Especially for little skittery thing ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/71 "2024-10-18T22:24:16Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Kinda scary about that guy that got mauled in his house by a bear. That was a week or so ago. [Lake City Colorado](https://www.africahunting.com/threads/marlin-336-er-356-win-1600.78948/). That link goes to a gun sale page. Here is a better link: > **[Black bear with three cubs enters Lake City home, attacks 74-year-old](https://cpw.state.co.us/news/10062024/black-bear-three-cubs-enters-lake-city-home-attacks-74-year-old)** ETA: There’s a lot of good info about bearproofing at the bottom of that article. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/72 "2024-10-18T23:31:17Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > ETA: There’s a lot of good info about bearproofing at the bottom of that article. And on this website: > **[Bear Safety Tips | Be Bear Aware Campaign | Missoula, MT](https://bebearaware.org/)** > > The goal of Be Bear Aware Campaign is to inform people on how to stay safe when encountering bears and other wildlife. Learn about common bears, bear spray and more. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889/73 "2024-10-19T11:27:16Z")
Sorry about my screwed up link about the man that was attacked. That was a previous link I had made when we where talking about firearms. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-is-something-out-there/1008889.md?page=3)