# There might just be a reason that Lissener gets repeated pittings.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278 "2009-06-10T00:42:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/21 "2009-06-10T11:51:10Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> …but just another lissener pileon…

Uh, you pretty much brought this on yourself. You overplayed the “I’m gay and every possible reference (even if it’s my own interpretation) to gays by straights is homophobic and it offends me!” card. I’m surprised people here still give you the time and attention.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/22 "2009-06-10T12:01:02Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Thanks, Miller, for crystallizing this for me, and making it indelibly, unquestionably clear that this is not about the actual topic under discussion, but just another lissener pileon.

You are _such_ an ass.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/23 "2009-06-10T12:15:30Z")

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But he’s so much better at it than you! You’re such a fucking dumbass that you don’t know the history of asses. You just follow whatever the Penis Club Overlords tell you you should be as an ass.

Ass.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/24 "2009-06-10T12:16:21Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> So to recap: my initial statement in the linked thread, while overstated and open to debate and even perhaps to correction, was hardly threadshitting, and hardly pitworthy.

The problem is that your board persona is hyper-critical (which is a lousy fucking characteristic, by the way), so your tether has no remaining slack. Not everyone gets treated the same, nor should they.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/25 "2009-06-10T13:37:59Z")

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Isn’t citing your huge album collection as evidence of musical knowledge, akin to claiming that being morbidly obese makes you an expert on cuisine?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/26 "2009-06-10T13:44:03Z")

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I know and care nothing about popular music, but lissener is indeed a dick.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/27 "2009-06-10T13:52:18Z")

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Think how bad it would be if he was an african-american lesbian with physical handicap who had become a vegetarian jew and had american indian ancestors !

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/28 "2009-06-10T14:11:33Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Think how bad it would be if he was an african-american lesbian with physical handicap who had become a vegetarian jew and had american indian ancestors !

and who is “sick and tired” of certain interracial couples.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/29 "2009-06-10T14:19:37Z")

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I think **lissener** gets pitted relatively often because he is one of the biggest assholes who posts here. Just a theory.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/30 "2009-06-10T14:25:01Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> And even as far as my accusations of sexism and homophobia, while perhaps overstated and fueled by my ignorance that “wuss rock” is a term of some currency that carries its own pre-existing meaning, are, while certainly debatable and worthy of some discussion, hardly pitworthy in and of themselves.

But Pitworthiness is not your call, is it. To some people – and I include myself in this group – accuasations of sexism and homophobia are miles more pitworthy than using the term “dwarf” as a verb in common usage.

As far as the OP’er is concerned: Consider the source for any comment, and set your level of outrage accordingly.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/31 "2009-06-10T17:29:25Z")

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You know how I know you are gay? Because you started a Pit thread over some argument about Jeff Buckley in a Coldplay thread.😃

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/32 "2009-06-10T18:13:15Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Isn’t citing your huge album collection as evidence of musical knowledge, akin to claiming that being morbidly obese makes you an expert on cuisine?

Well, there goes my whole plan for getting on “Iron Chef” by eating three Big Macs a day for a year. Dream killer.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/33 "2009-06-10T18:14:59Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> And even as far as my accusations of sexism and homophobia, while perhaps overstated and fueled by my ignorance that “wuss rock” is a term of some currency that carries its own pre-existing meaning, are, while certainly debatable and worthy of some discussion, hardly pitworthy in and of themselves.

I guess that’s where we disagree. Overstating one’s pop cultural knowledge is not a big deal. Casually tossing around accusations of bigotry, on the other hand, is pretty fucking serious, and when it’s done on the basis of a word that is widely used in the common parlance, and has absolutely no history of association with any recognized minority, I think you’ve moved pretty solidly into “deserves a pitting” territory.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/34 "2009-06-10T22:33:50Z")

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This can’t really go in Sequential Threads…

**There might just be a reason that Lissener gets repeated pittings.  
Surreal Pussy Loser**

😃

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/35 "2009-06-10T23:16:28Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> No, you see, when Tori did it, she was making a statement against the evil establishment of patriarchy and sexism and misogyny and racism and she was empowering women and fighting for the cause of equality and freedom of expression and blazing a new path for female artists, hacking and slashing through the gnarled, old evil forces of patriarchy like Joan of Arc with a shining sword.

That’s the best euphemism for getting yourself off I’ve ever heard 😃

And I don’t care about anyone’s specific opinion of Tori (someone who I couldn’t even name one song from) - my point was just that linking sex to music is not inherently sexist. Now back to the pointless pitting …

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/36 "2009-06-10T23:30:56Z")

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I have nothing in particular against **lissener** , but the way I see it in this case:

1. **lissener** is a) wrong, b) moving goalposts, and c) terribly, terribly shrill.
2. The OP is dead on.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/37 "2009-06-10T23:44:12Z")

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> [@Jodi](#):
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> But Pitworthiness is not your call, is it. To some people – and I include myself in this group – accuasations of sexism and homophobia are miles more pitworthy than using the term “dwarf” as a verb in common usage.

I’m pretty sure that’s supposed to be “little people.”

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/38 "2009-06-11T15:22:35Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that’s supposed to be “little people.”

As in “The Grand Canyon little peoples any other tourist attraction in Arizona”? It just doesn’t flow the same way. We can still say “flow,” right?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/39 "2009-06-11T15:36:55Z")

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> [@Jodi](#):
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> We can still say “flow,” right?

Only if you’re [David Broom from “Real World: New Orleans.”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDvr7d5qZUw&feature=related)

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**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-might-just-be-a-reason-that-lissener-gets-repeated-pittings/499278/40 "2009-06-11T15:51:04Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Ooga booga! Ooga booga!

This is totally offensive to cavemen. Those are OUR words. You can’t just use them. Now you’re gonna tell me that you meant to say ooger instead of ooga. Well it’s too damn late! I’m so reporting this post.

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