# There should be no warnings for straight up hate speech. They should be banned.

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**Created:** [March 6, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155 "2016-03-06T21:43:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155/41 "2016-03-08T08:48:53Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> So “coloured” people are “of two or more colors?”

Well, yes.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155/42 "2016-03-08T09:29:19Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Because, if you were to state anything at all about anything, **Stringbean** wants to be there to contradict you. Or anyone. He’s not interested in discourse. He just wants to be a pain in the ass.

Let’s avoid calling others names in this forum.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155/43 "2016-03-08T14:27:59Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Because, if you were to state anything at all about anything, **Stringbean** wants to be there to contradict you. Or anyone. He’s not interested in discourse. He just wants to be a pain in the ass.

I’m colored, and I wasn’t entirely sure that the post in question was meant to indicate anything about race. However, given the source, I don’t think it was necessary to offer him the benefit of the doubt.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155/44 "2016-03-08T14:37:07Z")

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I did some googling into some of the grosser parts of the internet and found some talk that threw the word “polychromatic” around with the word “miscegenation.” That is, polychromatic folks are the ones who are the product of the mixing of races.

Since the late Diego once commented on “[traditional all-white culture](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19088814&postcount=16),” this is a slur that makes sense for him. When he called us “polychromatics” he was referring to our disgusting disregard for white culture.

No cite. Google it your own damned self.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155/45 "2016-03-08T14:39:36Z")

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I think there was adequate and sufficient provocation for the banning. I have no interest in discussing the banning, actually.

I don’t like the idea, raised by the OP in the abstract (with the banning of this poster being cited, at least in theory, merely as an example), that hate speech should result in a no-warning ban. The reason I don’t like it is that such an attitude pretends that interpretation plays no role, that hate speech is what it is, recognizable to all. Perhaps less obviously, it insulates us all from any ongoing consideration of what _makes_ something hate speech. It depends on recognizing words, phrases, and perhaps insinuations and lines of thought that have already been tagged as hateful. That’s a type of autoresponse. My concern here is that in the absence of reminding ourselves (at least periodically) of what the criteria are for something being understood as hateful, we get lazy and cease to recognize new forms of it.

I do understand that it’s tiresome to rehash in every instance why saying some hateful phrase is an example of hate speech. And when it’s a newly-registered person who has not been part of our community, I’m onboard with an instaban attitude if they land in here shooting their hateful mouth off. But in general I don’t like zero-tolerance _anything_ as an across-the-board (no pun intended) policy.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155/46 "2016-03-08T14:41:29Z")

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> Since the late Diego once commented on “traditional all-white culture,” this is a slur that makes sense for him. When he called us “polychromatics” he was referring to our disgusting disregard for white culture.

I don’t think that’s exactly what he meant since he’s Filipino himself.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155/47 "2016-03-08T14:52:41Z")

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Eh, I guess. I’m not terribly interested in dissecting his particular flavor of bigot.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-should-be-no-warnings-for-straight-up-hate-speech-they-should-be-banned/748155/48 "2016-03-08T15:35:16Z")

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I’m not sure he was Filipino, but he did live there.

I think, given the overall history of the poster, including his recent Pit thread, the banning made sense.

I agree that context and history should be part of the decision process.

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