# There was a common thread to the Lincoln,Garfield,McKinley and Kennedy assasinations

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**Created:** [August 24, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516 "2012-08-24T19:08:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/41 "2012-08-24T20:07:42Z")

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Uh, unless I’m missing something, you gave YOUR legal documents. All these prove (if anything) is that there’s a lawsuit and you’re making the claims there that you’re making here (apart from the whole assassination bit). If you think they prove the _merits_ of your suit, well, I think you’re mistaken.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/42 "2012-08-24T20:10:35Z")

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> [@chappy](#):
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> The global banking system has been using this gold as collateral for the money they lend.

Wait - what? In my universe, the people who _borrow_ money use their possessions as collateral.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/43 "2012-08-24T20:11:32Z")

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> [@chappy](#):
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> What would it take for you to see this has merit? News stories all over NBC? You asked for documents, I gave documents.

You call those “documents” proof of anything? Those are two random lunatics making allegations based on urban legends. I could file similar liens claiming that NASA stole all the gold off the moon and won’t give it back, and it’d be just as valid - in other words, full of bullshit.

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**Author:** ![chappy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@chappy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/44 "2012-08-24T20:12:21Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Uh, unless I’m missing something, you gave YOUR legal documents. All these prove (if anything) is that there’s a lawsuit and you’re making the claims there that you’re making here (apart from the whole assassination bit). If you think they prove the _merits_ of your suit, well, I think you’re mistaken.

It’s not _my_ lawsuit.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/45 "2012-08-24T20:14:21Z")

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Still doesn’t give any proof on the merits - only that one side is claiming SOMETHING.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/46 "2012-08-24T20:15:06Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> This can only end in tears.

I think it’s going to end in \*\*chappy’s \*\*unexplained dissappearance if he doesn’t keep his gums from flapping.

**chappy** : a word from your handlers: The fat man eats the spaghetti … repeat: the fat man eats the spaghetti.  
I’ve said enough already.

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**Author:** ![chappy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@chappy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/47 "2012-08-24T20:18:16Z")

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> [@CurtC](#):
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> Wait - what? In my universe, the people who _borrow_ money use their possessions as collateral.

do you think banks have to have a dollar in deposits for each dollar they lend?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/48 "2012-08-24T20:19:12Z")

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> [@chappy](#):
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> What would it take for you to see this has merit?

Well, for starters, it would have to possess some merit…

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**Author:** ![chappy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@chappy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/49 "2012-08-24T20:20:20Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> You call those “documents” proof of anything? Those are two random lunatics making allegations based on urban legends. I could file similar liens claiming that NASA stole all the gold off the moon and won’t give it back, and it’d be just as valid - in other words, full of bullshit.

You think people would pay thousands and thousands to file a lawsuit on a _whim_? Are you familiar with the Jekyl Island conference in 1910?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/50 "2012-08-24T20:21:16Z")

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> [@chappy](#):
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> You think people would pay thousands and thousands to file a lawsuit on a _whim_?

Some people are rich. Some people are bored. Some people are dumb. Some people are nuts. No, the fact that someone filed a lawsuit does not suggest there is any merit to the argument.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/51 "2012-08-24T20:21:32Z")

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Yes. That or sheer lunacy. Both happen all the time. There’s no evidence that this isn’t another case.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/52 "2012-08-24T20:21:44Z")

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> [@chappy](#):
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> You think people would pay thousands and thousands to file a lawsuit on a _whim_?

They would have to be absolutely _insane_ to do that.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/53 "2012-08-24T20:26:37Z")

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> [@chappy](#):
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> Are you familiar with the Jekyl Island conference in 1910?

Yes, but that was superseded by the Hyde Park conference of 1912.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/54 "2012-08-24T20:28:15Z")

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Is it safe?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/55 "2012-08-24T20:33:35Z")

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> [@chappy](#):
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> You think people would pay thousands and thousands to file a lawsuit on a _whim_?

Some folks are willing to post endless missives on message boards, wasting vast amounts of time and resources over multiple years, in a futile effort to convince people of illogical, unsupported, and frankly nonsensical fairy tales. It’s not a big leap from that to filing lawsuits.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/56 "2012-08-24T20:34:10Z")

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You know, unless a hundred pounds or so of this alleged gold is somehow going to end up in my pocket, allowing me to pay off my student loans and fix up the house, I really truly cannot bring myself to care, even if this weren’t a pile of garbage. Which, of course, it is.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/57 "2012-08-24T20:36:36Z")

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Chappy, somewhere in your head there’s a little voice of reason crying to be heard. Seek that voice out and listen to it.

Think, if there was an international banking conspiracy that was powerful enough to have four presidents killed over the space of a hundred years, how would anyone get away with making all these public accusations against them? If this conspiracy existed, it would have stopped people from posting about them on the internet or filing lawsuits against them. But people do these things - so that means the conspiracy doesn’t exist.

Second, you can’t take a bunch of random facts and then try to invent a theory that fits them together. You’re supposed to come up with a theory and then see if the facts support it. So don’t start with a list of the presidents who were assassinated. Start with a list of the presidents who moved us to fiat currency. You’ll see that plenty of these presidents were not assassinated.

Finally, your theory doesn’t even make sense as a possibility. Why would an international banking conspiracy want to maintain a gold standard? A gold standard is less subject to banking control than fiat currency. If there was an international banking conspiracy, they wouldn’t have killed the four presidents you listed - they would have protected them.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/58 "2012-08-24T20:41:31Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Chappy, somewhere in your head there’s a little voice of reason crying to be heard.

Objection, Your Honor. Assumes facts not in evidence.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/59 "2012-08-24T20:42:12Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> the Global Bankers (wink wink, nudge nudge)

Oh, c’mon, you’re just being paranoid about him. I mean look, he’s citing from [Thosepeoples.com](http://Thosepeoples.com) (wink wink, nudge nudge). They’ve got a great article called [Proof of US Owned By Israel Since Long Time Ago](http://www.thosepeoples.com/2011/11/proof-of-us-owned-by-israel-since-long.html) on the site!

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/60 "2012-08-24T20:47:59Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Oh, c’mon, you’re just being paranoid about him. I mean look, he’s citing from [Thosepeoples.com](http://Thosepeoples.com) (wink wink, nudge nudge). They’ve got a great article called [Proof of US Owned By Israel Since Long Time Ago](http://www.thosepeoples.com/2011/11/proof-of-us-owned-by-israel-since-long.html) on the site!

I’m not clicking through there. Do they mention the Star of David over the eagle’s head on the one-dollar bill?

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