# There was a common thread to the Lincoln,Garfield,McKinley and Kennedy assasinations **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 24, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516 "2012-08-24T19:08:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![chappy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@chappy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/61 "2012-08-24T20:55:11Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Start with a list of the presidents who moved us to fiat currency. You’ll see that plenty of these presidents were not assassinated. > > Finally, your theory doesn’t even make sense as a possibility. Why would an international banking conspiracy want to maintain a gold standard? A gold standard is less subject to banking control than fiat currency. If there was an international banking conspiracy, they wouldn’t have killed the four presidents you listed - they would have protected them. The 4 i’m talking about wanted to take us _off_ fiat currency. Thats why they were killed. The international bankers stole the Gold so that we _had_ to use fiat currency, giving them control. Any president who tried to get the Gold _back_ was assasinated. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/62 "2012-08-24T20:58:04Z")
And where, pray-tell, is this stolen booty stashed? ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/63 "2012-08-24T21:02:29Z")
Umm… Because I’m That Kind of Person, I just checked- the best estimate for the total quantity of gold ever mined is approx 165,000,000kg, (maybe a little more by now, as that’s not a completely up to date stat) or to put it another way, 1/28th of the quantity apparently in this mystery vault. That’s impressive hiding skills, especially as I’m pretty sure I own some gold, and I’m fairly sure other people do as well. It’s amazing what conspiracy minded goverments/mystery organisations can do when they really put their minds to it eh? I know there’s little point in mentioning this, apart from the fact I think we should all learn something new every day. Those of us who aren’t insane, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/64 "2012-08-24T21:02:34Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > And where, pray-tell, is this stolen booty stashed? In a giant pyramid at the bottom of the ocean. Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia! ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/65 "2012-08-24T21:04:14Z")
Um, no. The US was still on the gold standard during Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley’s tenures. and did not go to a fiat currency until the mid-twentieth century. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/66 "2012-08-24T21:04:29Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > Allegations: > > 1. The amount of gold under contract to the Federal Reserve system is 2,420,937,400 kilograms. According to this [non-crazy site](http://www.coinweek.com/bullion-report/how-much-gold-is-there-in-the-world/), there has been about 158 million kg of gold mined out of the Earth’s surface in the entire history of mankind. When the very first part of your claim is that the Federal Reserve has stolen 15 times more gold than _exists_, it’s not a good start. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/67 "2012-08-24T21:05:29Z")
Wow. Just wow. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/68 "2012-08-24T21:05:36Z")
Chappy, please seek help. This particular conspiracy theory is harmless, but it leads to a pretty dark place. You’re not thinking clearly. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/69 "2012-08-24T21:23:42Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > The global banking system has been using this gold as collateral for the money they lend. We’re talking 50 trillion in loans and maybe 1 trillion backing it. It means bankruptcy. World bankruptcy. What’s about to take place between now and Jan. 1 will blow your mind. Bookmarked this thread so that on Jan 2 I can resurrect it and mock it. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/70 "2012-08-24T21:30:13Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > I’m not clicking through there. Do they mention the Star of David over the eagle’s head on the one-dollar bill? But it’s excellent. It leads off with the inimitable: > [@](#): > > 1 - Shortly after the balfour agreement signed, on February 2, 1917, the president of u.s.a directly gave a press conference: “I am personally and as a president is very proud of the attitude of this coalition country and all american peoples agreed with establishment the israel jews in Palestine and my own support absolutely for establishment of israel”. I’m convinced. Where do I go to get me some Jew Gold before the (surely any day now) apocalypse? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/71 "2012-08-24T21:33:28Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > The 4 i’m talking about wanted to take us _off_ fiat currency. Thats why they were killed. The international bankers stole the Gold so that we _had_ to use fiat currency, giving them control. Any president who tried to get the Gold _back_ was assasinated. In my defense, your theory is so nebulous, it’s hard to tell what exactly you’re claiming. So how do you feel these four presidents were trying to take us off fiat currency and back on the gold standard? Lincoln singed the First Legal Tender Act and was the first President to issue paper money - a major step _towards_ fiat currency. Garfield spoke out against the issuing of paper money - the opposite of Lincoln’s policy. McKinley defended the gold standard (but didn’t create it - it had been in existence all along) against Populist calls for a silver standard. And Kennedy issued silver certificates, which promoted the silver standard. What exactly do you think the single theme is that links all four of these financial policies? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/72 "2012-08-24T21:35:45Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > According to this [non-crazy site](http://www.coinweek.com/bullion-report/how-much-gold-is-there-in-the-world/), there has been about 158 million kg of gold mined out of the Earth’s surface in the entire history of mankind. > > When the very first part of your claim is that the Federal Reserve has stolen 15 times more gold than _exists_, it’s not a good start. Your site only includes the gold that was mined _on Earth_. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/73 "2012-08-24T21:39:32Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Your site only includes the gold that was mined _on Earth_. By _Humans_. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/74 "2012-08-24T21:42:52Z")
Can we get a grammar judge in here to determine if this particular phrase is, in fact, proper English: “I am personally and as a president is very proud of the attitude of this coalition country…” It may be something subtle, after all, this IS a direct quote from the POTUS (who I believe was Woodrow Wilson in 1917), but it just doesn’t sound right somehow. Maybe it is the subjunctive mode that he was using that makes it sound clunky to modern ears. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/75 "2012-08-24T21:45:41Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > Can we get a grammar judge in here to determine if this particular phrase is, in fact, proper English: “I am personally and as a president is very proud of the attitude of this coalition country…” > > It may be something subtle, after all, this IS a direct quote from the POTUS (who I believe was Woodrow Wilson in 1917), but it just doesn’t sound right somehow. Maybe it is the subjunctive mode that he was using that makes it sound clunky to modern ears. This is what happens when you sub-let your document forging to the Nigerians. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/76 "2012-08-24T21:56:31Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > It may be something subtle, after all, this IS a direct quote from the POTUS (who I believe was Woodrow Wilson in 1917) You sure? It sounds more like President Borat. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/77 "2012-08-24T22:11:19Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > You sure? It sounds more like President Borat. Is absolutely official cite for all facts on global conspiracy and President Woodhouse Wilson. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/78 "2012-08-24T22:23:02Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > The 4 i’m talking about wanted to take us _off_ fiat currency. Thats why they were killed. The international bankers stole the Gold so that we _had_ to use fiat currency, giving them control. Any president who tried to get the Gold _back_ was assasinated. If the International Bankers are that powerful, why do they allow non-team players like Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy to be elected in the first place? Wouldn’t it be better to only allow trusted lackeys and lickspittles to hold the ceremonial position the confused masses call “President of the United States”? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/79 "2012-08-24T22:35:09Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Bookmarked this thread so that on Jan 2 I can resurrect it and mock it. We’ll all be dead by then due to the axis shift, anyway [Are the planetary poles shifting as we speak? - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=661056) P.S. Previous thread on bankers killing Kennedy and Lincoln [http://www.boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=637649](http://www.boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=637649) ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/80 "2012-08-24T22:42:06Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > The 4 i’m talking about wanted to take us _off_ fiat currency. Thats why they were killed. And a fine example of a non-sequitur that is. Have you been visited by the Men in Black yet? Guess not, or you wouldn’t still be posting. Aren’t you afraid of them? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516.md?page=5)