# There was a common thread to the Lincoln,Garfield,McKinley and Kennedy assasinations **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 24, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516 "2012-08-24T19:08:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/121 "2012-08-25T11:25:56Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > Why are we having these troop movements? Trains with a red crescent on it. I’ve found 15 videos of this without even looking. Next stop Lubbock! ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/122 "2012-08-25T12:50:56Z")
Sorry to throw a bucket of cold water on this, but gold is not money. Gold represented money, and it holds a high value because people are still willing to exchange large amounts of money for it, but gold is not money. Turning your money to gold made sense when you needed to physically move your worth from one place to another, but since we have all agreed to accept that money can be an abstract rendering of value (and a means of keeping score) we do not need to have money tied to a certain stockpile of gold. Now back to our previously scheduled non sequiturs. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/123 "2012-08-25T14:59:27Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Sorry to throw a bucket of cold water on this, but gold is not money. Gold represented money, and it holds a high value because people are still willing to exchange large amounts of money for it, but gold is not money. But, to be fair, you’re referring only to actual gold that exists on earth and was mined by humans. For all we know, the 90% of chappy’s gold that is imaginary has all sorts of magical powers. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/124 "2012-08-25T15:48:22Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > But, to be fair, you’re referring only to actual gold that exists on earth and was mined by humans. For all we know, the 90% of chappy’s gold that is imaginary has all sorts of magical powers. [Maybe this guy was on to something…](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/3067/can-we-now-transmute-base-substances-into-gold) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/125 "2012-08-25T16:08:19Z")
Am I the only one who notices how this thread keeps lining up with [this thread?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=662781) 😃 Of course, I just ruined the latest alignment! ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/126 "2012-08-25T16:49:18Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Think about it. … Now stop thinking. This is the best advice given so far to our beloved **chappy**. (and, folks,… please,please, please don’t confuse the OP with me, just because we have similar names… My username isn’t my real-life name, but it is the real-life name of my cat. She loves to post here… I just help her with the typing.) ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/127 "2012-08-25T16:55:05Z")
Well dang, I’d been watching to see if **chappy** was ever going to address the photographic evidence I produced in his Oh Noes the Poles are Shifting! thread and here it turns out he’s started a whole new line of conspiracy theory instead. ---
**Author:** ![chappy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@chappy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/128 "2012-08-25T19:31:52Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Just FYI, while there is a Neil Keenan who works for Willkie Farr (and that’s his webpage), that’s not the same Neil Francis Keenan who filed the suit. . Neil Keenan,the man filing the suit to recover the gold is an\* associate\* with Wilkie Farr. His father was Joseph Keenan who was involved with prosecuting the Japanese war criminals after WW2. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/129 "2012-08-25T20:08:41Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > Neil Keenan,the man filing the suit to recover the gold is an\* associate\* with Wilkie Farr. His father was Joseph Keenan who was involved with prosecuting the Japanese war criminals after WW2. “Associate” and “involved with”-care to be a _little_ more specific there? In what court was/is this suit being filed? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/130 "2012-08-25T20:08:47Z")
This isn’t a Great Debate. I’m moving it to MPSIMS and seeing how that works out. ---
**Author:** ![chappy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@chappy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/131 "2012-08-25T20:37:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > “involved with”-care to be a _little_ more specific there? He led the prosecution in the Tokyo war crimes trials. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/132 "2012-08-25T20:57:22Z")
Chappy, are you going to bother to address the repeated citations that there isn’t anywhere near as much gold mined in the whole world as you claim is being hidden by the evil bankers? I mean, this is such a glaring problem for your theory that surely you understand that no one is going to take any of this remotely seriously unless and until you explain your claims regarding this, right? Or are you going to continue to ignore requests for further information, as you have done in all of your previous threads. I’m predicting now, for instance, that this very post will be thoroughly ignored next time you write something. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/133 "2012-08-25T21:02:35Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > Neil Keenan,the man filing the suit to recover the gold is an\* associate\* with Wilkie Farr. His father was Joseph Keenan who was involved with prosecuting the Japanese war criminals after WW2. The Neil Keenan who is an associate of Wilkie Farr, whose entry in the company directory you linked to ([here](http://www.willkie.com/NeilKeenan)), apparently graduated from college in 2006, and law school in 2009. I find it highly unlikely that this person is the son of [Joseph B. Keenan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_B._Keenan), who died in 1954. Also, the Neil Keenan who’s an associate at Wilkie Farr is listed as having a New York office and phone number, while the Neil Francis Keenan who signed whatever documents are in your Scribd links did so from Bulgaria. The internet has several results for Neil Francis Keenan being an American who lives in Bulgaria and files lawsuits like the one in question. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/134 "2012-08-25T21:09:14Z")
The Willkie Farr lawyer seems to be named [Neil **Raymond** Keenan](http://www.rocketlawyer.com/profiles/view-profile-NEIL+RAYMOND+KEENAN.aspx). ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/135 "2012-08-25T21:09:21Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > Neil Keenan,the man filing the suit to recover the gold is an\* associate\* with Wilkie Farr. His father was Joseph Keenan who was involved with prosecuting the Japanese war criminals after WW2. You still have not produced any evidence of a lawsuit being filed. Or any documents that appear to have been drafted by an actual lawyer. The documents I clicked on don’t make any sense, do not appear to have been filed in any court, and fail to allege jurisdiction, venue, and standing–basic elements of a lawsuit that any first year law student would know. They are not even styled/captioned correctly, nor do they state a claim for which relief may be granted. They are garbage. Worthless. Completely and utterly without any merit whatsoever, prove nothing, and would likely get any attorney that filed such jibberish sanctioned by the Court. They might even get a layman sanctioned for filing that drivel. That’s how bad they are. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/136 "2012-08-25T21:43:45Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > Now the information is so widespread they cant kill us all so they kill the messenger. > [@RickJay](#): > > This isn’t a Great Debate. I’m moving it to MPSIMS and seeing how that works out. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/137 "2012-08-25T21:46:13Z")
It’s maybe not mundane but it’s sure pointless; what’s the problem? ---
**Author:** ![chappy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@chappy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/138 "2012-08-25T22:17:03Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > The documents I clicked on don’t make any sense, do not appear to have been filed in any court, and fail to allege jurisdiction, venue, and standing–basic elements of a lawsuit that any first year law student would know. They are not even styled/captioned correctly, nor do they state a claim for which relief may be granted. They are garbage. Worthless. Completely and utterly without any merit whatsoever, prove nothing, and would likely get any attorney that filed such jibberish sanctioned by the Court. They might even get a layman sanctioned for filing that drivel. That’s how bad they are. Could you elaborate? I dont have any legal training. Setting aside the merits of the case, what is wrong with the way the documents are written? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/139 "2012-08-25T22:19:49Z")
> [@chappy](#): > > Could you elaborate? I dont have any legal training. Setting aside the merits of the case, what is wrong with the way the documents are written? What court of law were they filed in? If they weren’t filed, then they don’t mean jack shit legally. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516/140 "2012-08-25T22:20:17Z")
Poor chappy seems to have a permanent tinfoil hat on his head. If you check out the threads (nine) he has started they all deal with CT’s of one sort or another. There’s global warming, world finance, and Jehovah’s Witnesses. chappy seems to have a deep seated need to know the “truth” , or, even better, things others don’t know. Here’s four other threads. > **["The Great Global Warming Swindle" on Sundance Channel](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=542190)** > > Anyone see the documentary "The Great Global Warming Swindle on the Sundance Channel or at any other time? It only served to reinforce my belief that the CO2 causation is completely inacurate Sure, I think the planet’s warming but I also smell a... > **[Temp. Rise or co2 increase;which comes first](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=544714)** > > First let me say that I do believe the earth is indeed warming. The oceans are a great co2 sink. As the world cools co2 is absorbed by the oceans and as the world warms co2 is released, The charts that I’ve seen do indeed show a corallation between... > **[What is the origin and purpose of Jehovah's Witnesses?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=660556)** > > From the time I was a kid I knew something wasn’t quite right about Jehovah’s Witnesses. Most of the family on my mom’s side are still in. I’m treated reasonably decent by them due to the fact that I was never baptized. I’ve spent the years after... > **[Critique This \[re: Gospels\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=661326)** > > I know several people in my home town who are spending all of their time looking for Jesus to come save the planet. This indicates a poor understanding of the Gospels. Jesus demonstrated generosity when he was here but he didn’t give everyone what... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/there-was-a-common-thread-to-the-lincoln-garfield-mckinley-and-kennedy-assasinations/632516.md?page=8)