# There's a remake of Plan 9 From Outer Space?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 24, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000 "2016-03-24T00:56:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![JerrySTL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e274bd/32.png) [@JerrySTL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerrySTL)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/1 "2016-03-24T00:56:39Z")

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> **[Amazon.com: Plan 9 : Brian Krause, James Rolfe, Matthew Ewald, Camille Keaton,...](https://www.amazon.com/Plan-9-Brian-Krause/dp/B01BD9GY1A)**
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> Amazon.com: Plan 9 : Brian Krause, James Rolfe, Matthew Ewald, Camille Keaton, Addy Miller, Michael Christopher, John Johnson, Cville Performing Arts, Sallah Baloch, Terri Martin Baltz, David F. Baskwill, Michael Bauer, Nora Bauer, BeBe Bellamont,...

Why am I always the last to know? :smack:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/2 "2016-03-24T02:04:36Z")

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This is acceptable only if they use every word of the original’s dialogue, verbatim.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/3 "2016-03-24T02:11:35Z")

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An aging has-been movie star must die during the filming, and be replaced by an amateur who bears no resemblance whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/4 "2016-03-24T02:18:25Z")

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**Wha…?!?** :eek:

How? **WHY???** :smack: :dubious: 😕😕😕

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**Author:** ![journeyman\_southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5e9695/32.png) [@journeyman\_southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/journeyman_southpaw)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/5 "2016-03-24T02:29:31Z")

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[A trailer for it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJh-gdpJxJo) was released back in 2009, so… maybe you heard about it and long forgot.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/6 "2016-03-24T02:59:46Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> **Wha…?!?** :eek:
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> How? **WHY???** :smack: :dubious: 😕😕😕

I know, I know. It spoils our cultural icons when some presumptuous upstart director dares to remake a cherished classic. What’s next, Quentin Tarantino’s _Citizen Kane?!_

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/7 "2016-03-24T03:05:44Z")

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And why not Glen or Glenda?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/8 "2016-03-24T11:38:36Z")

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With the CGI that’s available now, they could really do a KILLER remake of **Robot Monster**

Seriously, though, if you haven’t seen it, I recommend **Hardware Wars — The Special Edition**. It was made without original director Ernie Fosselius’ approval (or, I suspect, his knowledge), but it should have been, because it’s hilarious.

When George re-released his original **Star Wars** with new CGI scenes, someone dusted off Fosselius’ ultra-low-budget quickly made parody _Hardware Wars_ and added CGI scenes to IT. In keeping with the style of the original Hardware Wars the CGI scenes are quickly and sloppily made. As with Lucas’ film, although they look cool, they really add nothing to the story, which is pretty much the point.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjniNHX92qg)

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/9 "2016-03-24T12:46:44Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> With the CGI that’s available now, they could really do a KILLER remake of **Robot Monster**

CGI billion bubbles? _ **Heresy!** _

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/10 "2016-03-24T13:04:27Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> CGI billion bubbles? _ **Heresy!** _

No, no, no, it’s _perfect_!  
You can make those bubbles go wherever you want, rather than being subject to the whims of the breeze. You can direct them to exactly where you want them to go, just like that feather at the beginning of _Forrest Gump_.  
All you have to do is _RECALCULATE!_

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/11 "2016-03-24T13:58:40Z")

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Imagine a can of gasoline is your Sun. Streaming out from the Sun are millions of tiny atoms… :eek:

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/12 "2016-03-24T15:03:27Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Imagine a can of gasoline is your Sun. Streaming out from the Sun are millions of tiny atoms… :eek:

But, see, with a Big bUdget a modern filmmmaker can actually afford a can of gasoline, and can SHOW you how it gets set on fire!

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/13 "2016-03-25T16:26:30Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> But, see, with a Big bUdget a modern filmmmaker can actually afford a can of gasoline, and can SHOW you how it gets set on fire!

You see?? You SEE?? Your stupid minds!!

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/14 "2016-03-25T16:35:30Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
What’s next, Quentin Tarantino’s _Citizen Kane?!_  
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I’d totally watch that. Especially if it reunited Travolta, Jackson, and Thurman.

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**Author:** ![john\_b\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@john\_b\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_b_2)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/15 "2016-03-29T19:43:58Z")

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It seems so pointless. The charm of the original lay in its spontaneity, cheapness, the death of its star, the need to work around it, and the sublime genius of Dudley Manlove.

There’s no way they can duplicate any of this, nor improve upon it. Leave the classics alone!

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/16 "2016-03-29T20:15:22Z")

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I think it’s supposed to be the film Ed Wood really wanted to make. Looks like it has very high production values, but it’s just another zombie movie, which made me think–\* Plan 9\* is the original zombie movie. It actually came before _Night of the Living Dead_. And didn’t Wood want to call it _Zombies from Outer Space_, but the church wouldn’t let him?

Yes, I realize Val Lewton’s _I Walked with a Zombie_ is technically the first Zombie movie, but that movie doesn’t belong to the “undead rising from graves” genre, it belongs to a B-movie genre about Voodoo and hypnotic control that was a huge fad in the 1950s. Lots of matinee length films, but not so many full-length films, which is why you don’t see them much now.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/17 "2016-03-29T20:21:45Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> I think it’s supposed to be the film Ed Wood really wanted to make. Looks like it has very high production values, but it’s just another zombie movie, which made me think–\* Plan 9\* is the original zombie movie. It actually came before _Night of the Living Dead_. And didn’t Wood want to call it _Zombies from Outer Space_, but the church wouldn’t let him?

No…Grave Robbers from Outer Space, I think.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/18 "2016-03-29T20:36:19Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> I think it’s supposed to be the film Ed Wood really wanted to make. Looks like it has very high production values, but it’s just another zombie movie, which made me think–\* Plan 9\* is the original zombie movie. It actually came before _Night of the Living Dead_. And didn’t Wood want to call it _Zombies from Outer Space_, but the church wouldn’t let him?

_Grave Robbers from Outer Space_, I believe. This is an interesting perspective; I’ve never thought of _Plan 9_ as a zombie movie in the modern sense, as the risen dead are for the most part under the aliens’ control, and don’t swarm about attempting to eat human flesh–which to me is probably the defining characteristic of what we call “a zombie movie” today. _Plan 9_ is so goofy, that the dead returning to life is really something of an odd diversion from the main storyline of alien invasion.

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> Yes, I realize Val Lewton’s _I Walked with a Zombie_ is technically the first Zombie movie, but that movie doesn’t belong to the “undead rising from graves” genre, it belongs to a B-movie genre about Voodoo and hypnotic control that was a huge fad in the 1950s. Lots of matinee length films, but not so many full-length films, which is why you don’t see them much now.

Nah. The Halperin Brothers’ _White Zombie_, starring Bela Lugosi, was released in 1932, and can reasonably claim to be the first zombie movie. There were also _Revolt of the Zombies_ in 1936, and _King of the Zombies_ in 1941, both pre-dating Lewton’s film. There’s also, if you want to count it, the Bob Hope comedy _The Ghost Breakers_. Of course, all of those deal with zombies created by voodoo, which, as you say, is really such a different type of film than the “swarms of undead mindlessly attack the living” genre, that I really kind of wish we had a different name for them. Although both types of creature are called “zombies,” they don’t really have that much in common. The story beats of a voodoo zombie movie are very different from those of a Romero-type zombie movie.

As for the trailer, it does look a lot like a typical “the dead return and feast on the living” zombie film, which are a dime a dozen right now, and which really has nothing to do with the zany charm that makes _Plan 9_ what it is.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/19 "2016-03-29T20:46:09Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> You see?? You SEE?? Your stupid minds!!

Saaay, I don’t have to listen to this! :mad:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-remake-of-plan-9-from-outer-space/750000/20 "2016-03-29T21:02:23Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> An aging has-been movie star must die during the filming, and be replaced by an amateur who bears no resemblance whatsoever.

It should be an actor associated with vampire roles, but Christopher Lee died last year . . . I nominate Harrison Ford (why not, he’ll never do another SW or IJ flick), and the director’s wife’s chiropractor.

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