# There's a serious problem in Doperville **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032 "2003-03-13T04:11:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/21 "2003-03-13T22:49:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \* > \*\*The nit-pick was over **red-neck**. Just thought I’d clear that up. \*\* **EasyPhil** , either you’re incredibly stupid or you’re being wilfully ignorant. The nitpick in question resulted from someone saying the “red-neck racist thread.” Since that’s your thread, you obviously know you titled it, in part, “punk ass racist.” Ergo, you’re nitpicking over the term “red-neck” vs. “punk ass.” If you weren’t nitpicking, you wouldn’t have brought that up in the first place. And I repeat that others made quite substantive points in their posts, in my opinion – points that directly responded to the meat of your OP. Why you would choose that post (or, indeed, mine) to which to respond makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/22 "2003-03-13T22:51:19Z")
Fine **EP**. You’re an asshole. Nitpick away. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/23 "2003-03-13T22:54:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Otto \* > \*\*I was sort of hoping that Eve’s would be the last word in this thread because of its utter beauty. > > As for our boy Phil, I would accuse him of being a troll if I weren’t afraid of being seen as racist. > > Against trolls. \*\* Looks to me that in another [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=169245) you’re looking very much like a troll. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/24 "2003-03-13T23:01:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sauron \* > \*\ ***EasyPhil** , either you’re incredibly stupid or you’re being wilfully ignorant. The nitpick in question resulted from someone saying the “red-neck racist thread.” Since that’s your thread, you obviously know you titled it, in part, “punk ass racist.” Ergo, you’re nitpicking over the term “red-neck” vs. “punk ass.” If you weren’t nitpicking, you wouldn’t have brought that up in the first place. > > And I repeat that others made quite substantive points in their posts, in my opinion – points that directly responded to the meat of your OP. Why you would choose that post (or, indeed, mine) to which to respond makes no sense. \*\* I would say neither. I asked a rhetorical question of **asshat\_in\_wonderland**? I made a snarky remark to you, about your question to me about that. I’ll get around to the posts that are dealing with the OP. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/25 "2003-03-13T23:36:16Z")
Hey **Phil** - go have passive anal sex with an alien robot wearing a hedgehog condom, would ya? Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/26 "2003-03-13T23:38:17Z")
I’m still waiting for you to address the very first post in the thread, made by yours truly. Truthfully, I’m dying to be called a racist so I can then cut loose and tell you what I _ **REALLY** _ think. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/27 "2003-03-13T23:40:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by alice\_in\_wonderland \* > \*\*Hey **Phil** - go have passive anal sex with an alien robot wearing a hedgehog condom, would ya? > > Cheers. \*\* Poor **alice\_in\_wonderland** lack of creativity has reduced her to using other peoples insults. Shouldn’t there be a footnote there somewhere, giving credit to who originally inked that particular insult that you’re hurling? You sorry ass plagerist. Oh, I almost forgot, BITE ME! ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/28 "2003-03-13T23:43:55Z")
Ah, a _two_-trick pony. Stupid twists on user names **and** wildly inaccurate accusations. Oh, make that _three_ tricks: incredible over-reactions. _His three main weapons are…_ ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/29 "2003-03-13T23:45:42Z")
Ah **Phil**. Your charm and wit just bowl me over. Oh wait - no they don’t. You make broad, sweeping comments about other posters, and get snippy when they do the same. You use the tired, old, change-the-username-into-an-insult ploy, that is SOOOOO 2001 and then accuse me of being uncreative. Really **Phil** , I think your a poor, sad, sorry excuse for a man. Eh. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/30 "2003-03-13T23:47:15Z")
**EasyPhil** , what the fuck is your problem? Why did you even start this thread if you only want to insult people who respond to it? You acted like a dick in that other thread, mostly because you seem incapable of backing down and admitting you made a mistake. You’re acting like a dick in this thread, because you’d rather pick a fight than participate in the discussion _you started_. **Stop acting like a dick!** It’s really the best solution. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/31 "2003-03-13T23:48:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \* > \*\*I’m still waiting for you to address the very first post in the thread, made by yours truly. > > Truthfully, I’m dying to be called a racist so I can then cut loose and tell you what I _ **REALLY** _ think. \*\* Okay **Airman Doors, USAF** , your on. Let’s see you already corrected the bit about where the thread was. I don’t agree with the view count premise, though I haven’t done a statistical analysis, I’ve seen many a thread, ones with sexual content that have tons of views but very little replies. If my pointing the particular irony of the situation makes some feel guilty, oh well. As for me being a one trick pony, you’re entitled to your opinion. If you’re dying to called a racist, say some racist shit and I’ll gladly oblige you. ---
**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/32 "2003-03-13T23:51:40Z")
Well, because your thread has a well known poster being pitted, people come in droves. Also, my belief is that Poster pittings attract more replies/views because it’s not likely in threads like “Stupid waiter” or “I had a really bad day” the pitted will come and defend themselves. Plus, theres the shock factor that draws them in: Kind of like pitting **Esprix** for being proud for being gay( I believe that’s what he got pitted for) or saying “Random Poster, Satanist, misogynist, communist-nazi bastard!” type things in the topic title. ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/33 "2003-03-13T23:55:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by alice\_in\_wonderland \* > \*\*Ah **Phil**. > > Your charm and wit just bowl me over. Oh wait - no they don’t. > > You make broad, sweeping comments about other posters, and get snippy when they do the same. > > You use the tired, old, change-the-username-into-an-insult ploy, that is SOOOOO 2001 and then accuse me of being uncreative. > > Really **Phil** , I think your a poor, sad, sorry excuse for a man. > > Eh. Whatever. \*\* Look, stop stalking me, I already have a girlfriend. **giraffe** , I’m going to try to be civil to you, don’t know how long it’s gonna last, but I give the old college try. I’m insulting those that are insulting me, like dissovles like and all. You want to view me as the aggressor, the one that’s starting all of this? Fine, I can’t control what you think or write. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/34 "2003-03-14T00:01:50Z")
In a sense, I’m kinda disappointed with that reply. It was actually reasonable. You left me no opening. Too bad you couldn’t have treated me the way you’ve been treating everyone else in this thread and the other one. I had rather looked forward to it. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/35 "2003-03-14T00:15:36Z")
Answer to the OP, Few of us have had to go through what **Payne N. Diaz’s** has gone through, so once there are posts from dopers saying ‘I’ve been through that, and I can only tell that it will get better’ there is very little that us fortunate dopers can say, and anything we do say will seem hollow in comparison. Many of us know how to have a “good ol’ Pit Pile-on” ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/36 "2003-03-14T00:29:02Z")
**EasyPhil** , as a thoroughly disinterested observer, all I’m saying is that you’re coming across badly. I recommend backing off, and just letting this one go. The racist thread was a mistake. This thread was a mistake. Move on. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/37 "2003-03-14T00:32:05Z")
I concur most heartedly w/ **Giraffe** ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/38 "2003-03-14T00:48:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bippy the Beardless \* > \*\*Answer to the OP, > Few of us have had to go through what **Payne N. Diaz’s** has gone through, so once there are posts from dopers saying ‘I’ve been through that, and I can only tell that it will get better’ there is very little that us fortunate dopers can say, and anything we do say will seem hollow in comparison. > Many of us know how to have a “good ol’ Pit Pile-on” \*\* But even if that’s the case, is it a prerequisite to have experienced what someone else has in order to be able to empathize with them? If I see someone get hit by a car, and I have never had that happen to me, I know that it hurt. I think it’s a mis-conception to think that what you would say would seem hollow. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/39 "2003-03-14T01:05:52Z")
Not a prerequisite, but when those with experience have put in there word it feels a bit presumptious to say things when you have no idea what the person’s situation is like. It would feel like reading a thread between astro-physics majors about general relativity, and then adding “I’ve heard of Relativity, isn’t that what Einstein inveted”. It also depends on the thread, if it was a “I’m depressed, life sucks, I need a hug” type thread then everyone with a hear too could add there good wishes. But the thread by **Payne N. Diaz** was mentioning very specific life events, and seemed to be looking for advice/help from those who had been through such things. Seeing the names of people I respect dissagreeing with your surmise of the punk assed rasist thread reaction, I doubt I would feel differently about the thread. But… your OP, in title at least, is spot on. **Things are getting tetchy arround here**. It’s no fault of anyone, and I think the Mods are acting well to diffuse the situation (c.f. banning political soap boxing in GQ), this is the effect of the looming war on everyones psychie IMHO. Cheers, Bippy ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-a-serious-problem-in-doperville/161032/40 "2003-03-14T01:08:05Z")
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