# There's clueless, then there's "how do you remember how to breathe" clueless

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 28, 2024, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938 "2024-09-28T08:44:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/141 "2024-10-03T14:54:51Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> He had a degree from a college that was a pioneer in catering to what we now call neurodivergent students.

Catering, so Dominos or Pizza Hut?

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/142 "2024-10-03T16:09:22Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> I’d guess that a kilometer of centerline paint is probably heavier than a kilogram.

14 K of G in a FPD

14 kilograms of goldishyellowpaint in a freshly painted dividingline

We’ve finally solved it!

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/143 "2024-10-03T16:21:39Z")

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I love that!

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Ahem…  
GoldfishYellow.

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> [@chela](#):
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> If clear of parked  
> Cars zoom away aiic

And the ‘aiic’ part means?

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/146 "2024-10-03T20:37:16Z")

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The sofa moving problem mentioned much earlier in this thread does not always have a trivial solution:

[Moving sofa problem - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_sofa_problem#:~:text=In%20mathematics%2C%20the%20moving%20sofa,with%20legs%20of%20unit%20width).

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/147 "2024-10-03T20:40:20Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> This is why the U.S. Navy utilizes the very useful terms “port” and “starboard” which is the left and right side of a vessel from the perspective of the vessel itself. The port side of a vessel is always the port side, no matter which way you are facing.

I still don’t fully understand why aircraft don’t universally use port / starboard instead of left / right.

> [@pjd](#):
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> > [@Kelevra](#):
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> > there was the guy from marketing who wanted to know if a kilogram was bigger than a kilometer.
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> It depends… a kilogram of what ?

A kilogram of length.

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/148 "2024-10-03T20:42:10Z")

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What drives a mathematician to turn moving furniture into a formal paper?

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> What drives a mathematician to turn moving furniture into a formal paper ?

Quest for tenure?

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I was thinking it was an excuse to avoid helping someone move house.

“Sorry but I have a math paper to work on.”

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/151 "2024-10-03T20:57:24Z")

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MARKETING LADY: How much does a gallon weigh?

LAB GUY: It all depends, a gallon of what?

MARKETING LADY: Just a regular gallon.

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/152 "2024-10-03T21:02:26Z")

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Does a kilometer of feathers weigh more than a kilogram of lead?

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/153 "2024-10-03T21:18:01Z")

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“A pint’s a pound  
The world around.”

(Old saying. Works mostly for approximations of things made mostly of water.)

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-clueless-then-theres-how-do-you-remember-how-to-breathe-clueless/1007938/154 "2024-10-03T21:32:43Z")

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Nutty math nerds?

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Ahem…  
> GoldfishYellow.

Nice.

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> I still don’t fully understand why aircraft don’t universally use port / starboard instead of left / right.

Sometimes they’re upside-down

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Maybe he confused the pound with the (kilo)pond?

No, he is technically correct that the unit “pound” is considered a force unit. However, there is a “pound” that is a mass unit as well. Typically differentiated as lbf and lbm, or using subscripts.

The difference between the two is a scaling factor, 32.2 ft-lbm/lbf-sec2 i.e., the standard acceleration of gravity. Because Force = mass x acceleration.

So the units can be converted, you just have to know which units are being used.

The kilogram force was someone trying to reverse the process, even though that isn’t really valid for SI. Just use Newtons for force.

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> [@abcdefghij](#):
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> Sometimes they’re upside-down

And also spinning very rapidly too.

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Like when they have yaws?

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In over 40 years of medical practice, I never did see a case of yaws. It’s much less common than syphilis, another treponemal disease.

As for aircraft yaw, not so much. Though the nose may wobble a bit along the yaw axis a bit, the whole plane is also pitching and rolling a lot.

[![](https://i.postimg.cc/SRgthXYQ/spin.jpg) ](https://i.postimg.cc/SRgthXYQ/spin.jpg)

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