# There's "Puppetry of the Penis" ... why no "Puppetry of the Vagina"?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [September 7, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569 "2005-09-07T19:36:50Z")
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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/1 "2005-09-07T19:36:50Z")

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[There’s "Puppetry of the Penis](http://www.puppetryofthepenis.com/)" … why no “Puppetry of the Vagina”?

Well? Why aren’t girls allowed?

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### Author: ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/2 "2005-09-07T19:39:58Z")

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Have you ever heard of Annie Sprinkles?

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### Author: ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
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You’re right! This is an incredible hole, just waiting to be filled.

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### Author: ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/4 "2005-09-07T19:56:23Z")

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How about “Ventriloquy of the Vagina”? Kinda like Senor Wences, only with a different body part.

It could take its inspiration from this film:

> **[Chatterbox! (1977) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075830/)**
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> Chatterbox!: Directed by Tom DeSimone. With Candice Rialson, Larry Gelman, Jane Kean, Perry Bullington. A young woman who works in a beauty parlor discovers that her vagina can talk, which causes her no end of trouble.

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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/5 "2005-09-07T20:03:17Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> How about “Ventriloquy of the Vagina”? Kinda like Senor Wences, only with a different body part.
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> It could take its inspiration from this film:
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> [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075830/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075830/)

An intriguing notion, but what would it say? What kind of conversations can you have with a vagina?

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### Author: ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/6 "2005-09-07T20:12:05Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> An intriguing notion, but what would it say? What kind of conversations can you have with a vagina?

Usually pretty one-sided, I’m afraid. Vaginas are oddly prone to monologuing.

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### Author: ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/7 "2005-09-07T20:41:11Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> How about “Ventriloquy of the Vagina”? Kinda like Senor Wences, only with a different body part.

'Sawright? _ **’Sawright!** _

Better yet, _Vaudeville of the Vagina_! _Vulva Varieties_! _Vaginal Vanities of 2006_! Elaborate costumes, music, sets, mirrors…tap dancing.

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### Author: ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/8 "2005-09-07T20:44:31Z")

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I can’t really fold my vagina. Not that I have really tried, mind you. But I’m thinking that’s why we haven’t seen it yet. Just a thought.

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### Author: ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/9 "2005-09-07T20:44:47Z")

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A Google search using the keyphrase “vulva puppet” will produce some amazing and amusing results.

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### Author: ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/10 "2005-09-07T20:49:43Z")

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> [@Tracy Lord](#):
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> Usually pretty one-sided, I’m afraid. Vaginas are oddly prone to monologuing.

Then whence [the Vagina Dialogues?](https://ssl.tnr.com/p/docsub.mhtml?i=pulps&s=zimmerman091604)

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### Author: ![cher3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cher3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cher3)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/11 "2005-09-07T20:54:53Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> How about “Ventriloquy of the Vagina”? Kinda like Senor Wences, only with a different body part.

Or, for a musical interlude, “La Queefomane.”

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### Author: ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/12 "2005-09-07T22:16:23Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> [There’s "Puppetry of the Penis](http://www.puppetryofthepenis.com/)" … why no “Puppetry of the Vagina”?

Ummm… because the vagina isn’t all that easy to see, being on the inside… or did you mean the vulva?

For some reason, I think it would be seen as being more vulgar than the male equivalent - male genitalia are quite commonly seen in movies, even on TV (in fact _The Puppetry of the Penis_ has been (graphically) featured on UK terrestrial TV more than a couple of times, but it’s very very unusual for the female genitalia to appear in the same sort of detail on the same media.

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### Author: ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)
#### Post date: [September 7, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/13 "2005-09-07T23:46:34Z")

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Oh, puppetry of the vagina is an ancient artform. It goes back a long way. {Rimshot!}

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### Author: ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2005, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/14 "2005-09-08T00:17:21Z")

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> [@cher3](#):
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> Or, for a musical interlude, “La Queefomane.”

:eek: _Sacre Bleu!_ She weel 'ave all of Paris at her feet!

…Mmmmmppphh, well, 'alf of Paris, anyway…

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### Author: ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2005, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/15 "2005-09-08T00:19:16Z")

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Ever heard of the Vagina monolouges? It probably counts.

Though I’ve never see PotP and was bored out of my skull during the Vigina monolouges(and I was entertained by “My dinner with Andre”, so it’s not an attention span thing).

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/16 "2005-09-08T00:44:58Z")

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Drop-kicking this puppy over the fence into Cafe Society.  
Sheesh! Sometimes I’m afraid to turn on my computer when I get home from work.:dubious:

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### Author: ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2005, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/17 "2005-09-08T02:38:17Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> [There’s "Puppetry of the Penis](http://www.puppetryofthepenis.com/)" … why no “Puppetry of the Vagina”?

I think it’s called ‘fisting.’

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### Author: ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/18 "2005-09-08T03:27:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> For some reason, I think it would be seen as being more vulgar than the male equivalent - male genitalia are quite commonly seen in movies, even on TV (in fact The Puppetry of the Penis has been (graphically) featured on UK terrestrial TV more than a couple of times, but it’s very very unusual for the female genitalia to appear in the same sort of detail on the same media.

Maybe in the UK, but here in the prudish States the **who-ha** is way more verbotten than the **hey-nani-nani**. Forget television, even in film a full frontal of a chick is only an R. If its a guy its an almost guaranteed NC-17.

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### Author: ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2005, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/19 "2005-09-08T04:02:05Z")

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> [@scout1222](#):
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> I can’t really fold my vagina. Not that I have really tried, mind you. But I’m thinking that’s why we haven’t seen it yet. Just a thought.

It’s OK. I might even pay to see you try.

Me happy.

Bring beer.

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### Author: ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-puppetry-of-the-penis-why-no-puppetry-of-the-vagina/320569/20 "2005-09-08T04:21:51Z")

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> [@Hail Ants](#):
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> Maybe in the UK, but here in the prudish States the **who-ha** is way more verbotten than the **hey-nani-nani**. Forget television, even in film a full frontal of a chick is only an R. If its a guy its an almost guaranteed NC-17.

Uh, I think the hoo-ha and the hey-nani-nani both belong to girls, don’t they? Unless I’m totally forgetting my sex-ed classes.

Anyway, I agree with you in general, but actual fiddling around with the girly bits? I can’t imagine that in a movie. A naked woman is inherently a little more modest-looking than a naked dude, since her parts are sorta tucked away. Whereas if it was a matter of actual puppetry, that goes way beyond the occasional nudie shot you see in movies.

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