# There's Rioting in Our Streets, Part 3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 27, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919 "2013-11-27T15:26:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/521 "2014-07-04T20:00:30Z")

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Pretty well. The streets are a helluva lot more settled down now. Fine with me if the junta stays forever.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/522 "2014-07-04T23:30:09Z")

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You guys are our wire service, we mostly get crap like [_Jakrapob Penkair says the coup won’t last very long_](http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-06-26/thai-anti-coup-group-expects-military-rule-to-be-short-lived).

Which is to say, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/523 "2014-07-05T02:39:17Z")

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Jakrapob is [hiding out in Cambodia](http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/417845/net-tightens-on-jakrapob), praying to Buddha that the military junta doesn’t send someone to cap his ass. And I hope they do. Fuck him. He’s one of the slimier of Thaksin’s henchmen.

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**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2014, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/524 "2014-07-05T11:46:15Z")

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It is amazing to see how a dictatorship forms, and is embraced through the eyes of someone on the ground.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2014, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/525 "2014-07-06T12:54:11Z")

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> [@RyJae](#):
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> It is amazing to see how a dictatorship forms, and is embraced through the eyes of someone on the ground.

Says the man with no knowledge of the situation.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/526 "2014-07-07T11:42:21Z")

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> [@RyJae](#):
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> It is amazing to see how a dictatorship forms, and is embraced through the eyes of someone on the ground.

Tells you how bad the previous bunch were, for example, and at the very least, they turned a blind eye as their supporters murdered people, including children.

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**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/527 "2014-07-07T13:05:31Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Ah yes, the “Catch Me if You Can” guy. Well, they could. That guy’s an asshole too. It’s a pity he could not have been shot for resisting arrest.

> [@Ale](#):
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> Tells you how bad the previous bunch were, for example, and at the very least, they turned a blind eye as their supporters murdered people, including children.

Notice the pro junta side isn’t against a little murder either.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/528 "2014-07-08T02:13:24Z")

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Hey, a little murder never killed anyone.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/529 "2014-07-08T06:48:17Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Says the man with no knowledge of the situation.

Wow. Instant hostile response to shut down any conversation critical of junta.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/530 "2014-07-08T07:42:29Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> Wow. Instant hostile response to shut down any conversation critical of junta.

See previous post.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/531 "2014-07-08T09:05:57Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> See previous post.

Well, you sure showed me.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/532 "2014-07-08T10:46:43Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Says the man with no knowledge of the situation.

He knows what you posted.

Look, Sam, we get it - it’s not your country, so what do you care? So long as it’s stable and they let you leave when you want to go, a dictatorship sounds better. That’s why there are so many westerners in Dubai. I’m not sure, however, that a permanent military junta is in the best long-term interest of the Thai people. If democracy doesn’t work, you fix it, You don’t throw it out.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/533 "2014-07-08T10:52:06Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> He knows what you posted.
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> Look, Sam, we get it - it’s not your country, so what do you care? So long as it’s stable and they let you leave when you want to go, a dictatorship sounds better. That’s why there are so many westerners in Dubai. I’m not sure, however, that a permanent military junta is in the best long-term interest of the Thai people. If democracy doesn’t work, you fix it, You don’t throw it out.

It’s my wife’s country, and she likes the junta just fine. So do many, many other Thais who are not red-shirt filth.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/534 "2014-07-08T10:59:03Z")

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So you’re fine with your children growing up in a military dictatorship? How about your grandchildren?

Are you cool with Thailand turning into another Burma?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/535 "2014-07-08T11:07:25Z")

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Jesus, how do you come up with this shit? Have you not been reading the thread at all?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/536 "2014-07-08T11:13:20Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Jesus, how do you come up with this shit? Have you not been reading the thread at all?

I understand that the people who used to be in power were absolutely horrible and deserve to be hung from lampposts. That’s fine, and if you say that a military junta is the best way to get rid of them, I’ll take your word for it. But what about the long term? Can Thai democracy _never_ be fixed? Are the Thai people utterly unable to govern themselves?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/537 "2014-07-08T11:27:03Z")

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Long term? Who knows? One problem is getting the voters to stop selling their vote to the highest bidder. But as I’ve pointed out repeatedly, Thailand never has never been a democracy. The military has always controlled it from behind the scenes, always, ever since the revolution of 1932, popping up to take control more overtly when a gangster like Thaksin and his ilk decides he’s more powerful than the military.

But I’m just repeating myself now.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/538 "2014-07-08T11:31:49Z")

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And you’re satisfied with that system of government? Do you think it should be adopted by other countries?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/539 "2014-07-08T11:33:47Z")

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I think I have made it pretty darned clear I am happy with this coup or anything else that rids this country of red-shirt filth. Other countries can look out for themselves.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2014, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-rioting-in-our-streets-part-3/674919/540 "2014-07-08T12:01:57Z")

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Gotcha.

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