# There's something you should know, Dear. Your father is in the freezer **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627 "2004-11-19T07:19:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2004, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/41 "2004-11-21T03:06:54Z")
> [@ouryL](#): > > What an absolutely evil woman. I feel sorry for her children. They will bear the burden of her evil acts the rest of their lives. Welllll, let’s not be hasty. We don’t know why she did it. Maybe he had it coming.\* For all we know it was self defense and she got scared and panicked rather than go to the cops. I don’t think we know enough information to automatically brand her as evil just yet. As far as her kids go, I imagine the knowledge of their father’s murder is going to mess with them, but otherwise I don’t see how they will bear a burden. So their mom killed somebody. It doesn’t mean they’re murderers too, and it’s not like they’re going to be put on trial for what their mom did. The mother died at a relatively young age so it looks like karma has done its thing. \*Yes, you can have it coming, dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2004, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/42 "2004-11-21T04:47:28Z")
_“…police…went to the Planet Self Storage facility in Somerville on Thursday and found the remains inside an unplugged freezer that was locked and sealed with duct tape, Coakley said. There was an odor coming from the freezer, she said…An autopsy will be performed to determine the cause and approximate time of death.”_ And here we have yet another of the myriad reasons that I do not regret my decision not to go into forensic pathology. Somehow on _Law and Order_ they never get around to showing the M.E. conducting a post-mortem on Pureed Papa. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/43 "2004-11-21T04:59:01Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Somehow on _Law and Order_ they never get around to showing the M.E. conducting a post-mortem on Pureed Papa. On _C.S.I._, on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2004, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/44 "2004-11-21T06:02:54Z")
Bwaahaaahaaahaaa! The side banner ad is for Botox! Uh, little late for that wouldn’t you say? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/45 "2004-11-22T01:57:05Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > And here we have yet another of the myriad reasons that I do not regret my decision not to go into forensic pathology. It is almost Zen like, my ability to not barf, given the evil scents visited upon my person while assisting the pathologist. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/46 "2004-11-22T04:29:12Z")
I used to work a few blocks from that storage facility. I know just where it is. Scary thought that this was in tere all those times I walked by. On the Boston news tonight there was a special report on how things left in such storage facilities tended to degrade with time because of leaks, etc. This would offer a significant response to that – tyhe freezer looked in pretty good shape when they pulled it out, esecially considering its contents. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/47 "2004-11-22T04:54:59Z")
> [@bobkitty](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > A woman identified in media reports as Geraldine DiMarzio Kelley, who died of cancer last Friday at age 54, told her daughter that she killed husband John Kelley while the couple lived in California. > > > > Authorities did not release the names. > > Uhhhh… I could have sworn their names were Geraldine DiMarzio Kelley and John Kelley. Are my psychic powers getting _that_ strong? 😕 Don’t be too hasty, authorities are investigating the whereabouts of one Walter Elias Disney… ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/48 "2004-11-22T09:54:52Z")
uh, [no](http://www.snopes2.com/disney/waltdisn/frozen.htm#add) they’re not. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/49 "2004-11-22T11:24:10Z")
So, while we are on the subject of Dad on Ice, whatever happened to Ted Williams Pot Pie case? ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/50 "2004-11-22T12:00:52Z")
> [@](#): > > **Abbie Charmichael** said: > Welllll, let’s not be hasty. We don’t know why she did it. Maybe he had it coming.\* For all we know it was self defense and she got scared and panicked rather than go to the cops. I don’t think we know enough information to automatically brand her as evil just yet. Would you be saying that if it were the husband who had killed the wife and then sealed her body up in a freezer for fourteen years before finally confessing on the deathbed? I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/51 "2004-11-22T12:39:04Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I used to work a few blocks from that storage facility. I know just where it is. Scary thought that this was in tere all those times I walked by. And here’s another: you know those cemetaries you’ve driven past…? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/52 "2004-11-22T13:07:04Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > the freezer looked in pretty good shape when they pulled it out, esecially considering its contents. Yes, it’s available in a package deal along with Jeffrey Dahmer’s refrigerator, at Bob’s Slightly Used Discount Appliances. ---
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/53 "2004-11-22T15:10:00Z")
> [@catsix](#): > > Would you be saying that if it were the husband who had killed the wife and then sealed her body up in a freezer for fourteen years before finally confessing on the deathbed? > > I doubt it. I would. I’d bet five bucks you would. But I’d also bet five bucks that it’s a thought that never occured to you in this case. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/54 "2004-11-22T15:40:17Z")
Hopefully his daughter can put this behind her once his assets are unfrozen. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/55 "2004-11-22T19:41:07Z")
> [@](#): > > **TellMeI’mNotCrazy** said: > I would. I’d bet five bucks you would. But I’d also bet five bucks that it’s a thought that never occured to you in this case. Yeah, when I hear about a mruder in which someone killed (and possibly dismembered) a person then stored the corpse in a freezer for fourteen years, taking pains to make sure it wasn’t discovered, I don’t tend to have thoughts like ‘Maybe the victim had it coming.’ I wonder why you would. ---
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/56 "2004-11-22T19:58:13Z")
> [@catsix](#): > > Yeah, when I hear about a mruder in which someone killed (and possibly dismembered) a person then stored the corpse in a freezer for fourteen years, taking pains to make sure it wasn’t discovered, I don’t tend to have thoughts like ‘Maybe the victim had it coming.’ > > I wonder why you would. Possibly because we know absolutely nothing other than the fact there is a person dead at the hand of another. We don’t know if it was in self-defense, a passionate rage, an act of horrid cruelty, or simply a deranged person killing her husband because the pot-roast told her to. I don’t make assumptions one way or the other. All I’m saying is, maybe he did have it coming, and maybe he didn’t have it coming. We won’t ever know, and it’s not ours to assume. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/57 "2004-11-22T20:51:54Z")
Because the cold-blooded mommy-dearest hid daddy’s corpse in the freezer for fourteen years letting her children wonder what happened to their father, letting his family wonder what happened to him, for all that time. Her ass should’ve been tried for the crime. ---
**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/58 "2004-11-22T22:59:51Z")
> [@catsix](#): > > Her ass should’ve been tried for the crime. Kinda hard to try a corpse, though. Whether the guy deserved it or not, one thing can’t be disputed: she definitely got away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/59 "2004-11-23T01:03:17Z")
> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#): > > All I’m saying is, maybe he did have it coming, and maybe he didn’t have it coming. We won’t ever know, and it’s not ours to assume. Considering it’s possible that _she_ thought he had it coming – you can throw that in the mix too. Still very, very wrong. But it seem pretty fucked up all around, read on… **catsix** – A more recent story said the children had been estranged from both parents since they were teens. So it doesn’t look either either parent was particularly enjoyable to be around. And relatives say he was a violent drunk. > [@From more recent article](#): > > McCann (close friend of the deceased) said John Kelley was a gifted auto mechanic and a nice guy when he wasn’t drinking. In the 1980s, John ran into trouble over a fight that resulted in the death of one of John’s relatives, McCann said. He punched and killed his best friend/brother-in-law at a wedding. The plot thickens. So basically, it looks like a lot of not-so-nice folks all around. A man who drinks, fights and kills, and a boa-constrictor wearing woman who apparently is capable of killing in cold blood. Yeesh! Oh and another more recent article said that at the time the remains were shipped to Massachussetts, they were _mummified_ – not quite as exciting as CSI soup. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627/60 "2004-11-23T04:51:06Z")
Would the Dad be a corpse flavored popsicle, or a Pop’s flavored corpsicle? :dubious: best I could do on short notice [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-something-you-should-know-dear-your-father-is-in-the-freezer/275627.md?page=2)