# There's trouble in this here city!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-trouble-in-this-here-city/27463>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 30, 2000, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-trouble-in-this-here-city/27463 "2000-07-30T19:13:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![speakeasy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@speakeasy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/speakeasy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2000, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-trouble-in-this-here-city/27463/61 "2000-08-01T03:44:19Z")

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> Malibu barbie flanger.

SWEET! That one’s going in the archives.

So, the score:

oldscratch, Myrr21, goboy, beakerxf, red\_dragon60, et al 27  
drainthelizard 0

draino - You should really consider learning to separate your opinions and what you were told in Sunday school from historical fact. Buh-bye now!

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**Author:** ![Nekochan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@Nekochan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nekochan)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2000, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theres-trouble-in-this-here-city/27463/62 "2000-08-02T22:19:07Z")

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\*Originally posted by drainthelizard \*  
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> \*Originally posted by goboy \*  
> \*\*Islam teaches that all believers are equal in the eyes of Allah. During the Haj in Mecca, all pilgrims, no matter how rich or poor they might be at home, wear the same white garments and live together in total equality.  
> The Buddha explained that a man’s virtues or vices depend on his deeds, not his birth or wealth. \*\*

Thanks for proving my point there, goboy. I’m not a history expert (or an expert at anything else) but I know whereof I speak on this topic.  
“All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” is a quote from the Bible. That’s ALL, believers and non-believers alike. So there goes Islam.  
“No man cometh unto the Father but by me” was said by Jesus himself. This means that believing in him is the only way to salvation. It has nothing to do with deeds, or anything else that is easily within the power of mankind. It is by the grace of God. SO there goes Buddhism.

What? How does this “prove” that neither Buddhism nor Islam teaches equality of man? All the above quotes “prove” is that some Christians believe only Christians can be saved.  
Very sloppy argumentation.

As a former practicing Buddhist, Buddhism does teach that all people are equal since all people have the ability to attain enlightenment. Of course, some sects teach that women have to be reincarnated as men in order to attain enlightenment, but that belief does not come from Buddha’s teachings. Like the situation in some Muslim countries, that is a case of local traditions influencing the practice of religion.

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