# They are trying it again- Ten Commandments
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [June 20, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134 "2024-06-20T20:54:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/21 "2024-06-20T22:35:41Z")
> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> > I’d like to enthusiastically suggest Braille.
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> Again, the new law does not allow any such shenanigans
Though I wrote that _mostly_ in jest …
What’s the harm of some left-leaning school Principal or University Professor actually stationing a Braille version of the Ten Commandments in his/her classroom?
Civil disobedience. Let them litigate the meaning of "large, easily readable font” or maybe make an issue out of access, and place the print version in a much less conspicuous location than the Braille version.
Laying back and praying for the US Supreme Court as currently constituted seems naive and misguided to me.
The case is bound for the Supreme Court, and precedent is _not_ on the side of (those who believe in the) angels on this one.
So … why not?
I’m pretty sure the Louisiana Schools for the Deaf and Visually Impaired (**[LSDVI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_School_for_the_Visually_Impaired)**), located in Baton Rouge receives public funding.
Maybe they start there, and see if it gets any traction elsewhere.
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### Author:  [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/22 "2024-06-20T22:37:10Z")
That Governor is all “Don’t look behind that curtain!” Meanwhile, he should really focus on some more pressing issues (but, I guess he’s got nothing for these problems, other than “cut taxes” and prayer):
[US News and World Report State Rankings - Louisiana](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/louisiana) (#50 in overall rankings):
- Crime and Corrections: #50
- Economy: #49
- Education: #47
- Fiscal Stability: #41
- Health Care: #46
- Infrastructure: #49
- Natural Environment: #49
- Opportunity: #44
[Louisiana is the 3rd poorest state](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/poorest-states)
_According to [World Vision](https://www.worldvision.ca/stories/child-sponsorship/what-is-poverty), poverty is defined as a “lack of access to basic needs such as food, clothing, and shelter.” The term can also apply to those whose conditions prevent them from acquiring education, medical help, or stable employment due to a lack of money._
[Louisiana sucks hard on the Federal public teat](https://smartasset.com/data-studies/states-most-dependent-on-the-federal-government-2022)
_7. Louisiana (Tie)_
_Only one other state - namely, Wyoming - relies on the federal government for more of its revenue than Louisiana, which relies on the federal government for 52.27% of its money. The Pelican State also receives $1.60 in federal funding for every $1 it pays in income taxes, the seventh-most across our study_.
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### Author:  [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/23 "2024-06-20T22:43:30Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> What’s the harm of some left-leaning school Principal or University Professor actually stationing a Braille version of the Ten Commandments in his/her classroom?
No, that would be fine- as long as there was a sighted version.
> [@snowthx](#):
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> Meanwhile, he should really focus on some more pressing issues (but, I guess he’s got nothing for these problems, other than “cut taxes” and prayer):
Yeah, the state really has issues.
4th highest smoking rate (West Va wins! 🙄 ) and the weather is gonna get worse and worse. Florida is having issues also, but at least being poor is not one of them.
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/24 "2024-06-20T22:56:38Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> “When fascism comes to America, it will be _wrapped in the flag_ and _holding a bible_.” - Sinclair Lewis (I think)
If it’s not Sinclair Lewis, it’s always Upton Sinclair.
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### Author:  [@Quondam\_Mechanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quondam_Mechanic)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/25 "2024-06-20T22:57:29Z")
I’d be amused to see somebody argue for a translation along the lines of “I am the lord Yahweh. You shall have no other gods before me.”
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### Author:  [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/26 "2024-06-20T23:30:30Z")
Even among Christians, there is dispute about which commandment is which. IIRC Catholics organize them differently— several Supremes are Catholic.
Brian
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### Author:  [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/27 "2024-06-20T23:37:14Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Civil disobedience. Let them litigate the meaning of "large, easily readable font” or maybe make an issue out of access, and place the print version in a much less conspicuous location than the Braille version.
How about the entire thing under the heading: THIS IS HOW OUR STATE IS VIOLATING THE FIRST AMENDMENT:
The rest is still there, just as the law requires.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/28 "2024-06-21T00:07:36Z")
My suggestion in the Stupid Republicans thread: Put the Ten Commandments in Hebrew, since they’re only binding on Jews, anyway. Above them, in English, put the Seven Commandments, because those are the ones that are supposed to be binding on everyone. And then, underneath the commandment to establish rule of law, put in explanatory text about how our rule of law prohibits displays like this.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/29 "2024-06-21T00:15:22Z")
I’m guessing that any teacher that did that would be looking for a new job. The posters will probably be distributed by the school districts.
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### Author:  [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/30 "2024-06-21T00:16:09Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> > [@nelliebly](#):
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> > I figure if they can be devious, so can I.
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> Except if you tried this in Louisiana you might literally get crucified for it.
I’d remind them that one guy who got crucified got a lot of great PR from it. I’m not a-skeert of them folks. Actually, I have family down there, including a sister who’s a retired teacher and a niece who teaches high school. They do a lot of eye-rolling at their governor and would probably let me hide out for a while.
What happens if I post the 10 Commandments flanked by Hammurabi’s Code and The Code of Lipit-Ishtar, and the rest of the whiteboard/wall covered by the 613 Jewish commandments and entitle the whole display as “Historical Codes of Behavior”?
I note that the posters won’t be funded by the government, but by private donations. Who determines which version will be used? If I make my own poster that uses the Catholic version of the Ten Commandments instead of the Protestant one, would I be breaking the law if the official poster is the Protestant version?
Who determines whether the Exodus or Deuteronomy version is used?
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/31 "2024-06-21T00:19:28Z")
Apparently, you’re not supposed to use any of the Biblical versions. The law specifies the version, and it’s not found anywhere in the Bible.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/32 "2024-06-21T00:44:26Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I haven’t been able to find a link, but I remember a story about a Ten Commandments monument that had long been in a county courthouse, and with much controversy, it was moved out into the yard. The story disappeared pretty quickly after it was revealed that an architect discovered that the monument was heavier than the floor could indefinitely support it.
I think you might be misremembering details about the Roy Moore case.
> **[Glassroth v. Moore](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glassroth_v._Moore)**
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> Glassroth v. Moore, 335 F.3d 1282 (11th Cir. 2003), and its companion case Maddox and Howard v. Moore, 229 F. Supp. 2d 1290 (M.D. Ala. 2002), is a decision from the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit that held a .mw-parser-output .frac{white-space:nowrap}.mw-parser-output .frac .num,.mw-parser-output .frac .den{font-size:80%;line-height:0;vertical-align:super}.mw-parser-output .frac .den{vertical-align:sub}.mw-parser-output .sr-only{border:0;clip:rect(0,0,0,0);clip-path:po
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/33 "2024-06-21T02:35:16Z")
Does the law specify how teachers should respond when an eight-year-old asks questions about the adultery in the seventh commandment, or the coveting of your neighbor’s wife in the tenth commandment?
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### Author:  [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/34 "2024-06-21T03:01:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’m guessing that any teacher that did that would be looking for a new job. The posters will probably be distributed by the school districts.
Most likely from the publisher that gave the largest contribution to the Republican party.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/35 "2024-06-21T05:10:01Z")
> [@snowthx](#):
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> [US News and World Report State Rankings - Louisiana](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/louisiana) (#50 in overall rankings)
This kind of argument will get zero traction with the Christofascist morons who are the target audience for this posturing, because they believe, quite explicitly, that it’s the godlessness that is creating their suffering. Cut secularism’s throat and soak everyone in the holy blood of Jesus, they say, and all those pesky crime and drug problems will disappear.
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/36 "2024-06-21T05:13:35Z")
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Fortunately for Bobo, there’s nothing in there about “Thou shalt not take in hand thy boyfriend’s privy member during a performance of Beetlejuice: The Musical”.
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/37 "2024-06-21T07:25:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I mean, no doubt the Ten C _are_ historical.
Depending on one’s definition of “historical”.
AIUI there’s no evidence that any part of the Moses story, from his birth to the Exodus to his mountain getaways with Yahweh to his posthumous authorship of parts of the Torah, _are_ actually historical.
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### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/38 "2024-06-21T10:33:21Z")
“Well, you know how you sometimes want what your friend has for lunch? It’s like that, except it’s for adults.”
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/39 "2024-06-21T10:54:26Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> “Well, you know how you sometimes want what your friend has for lunch? It’s like that, except it’s for adults.”
“Yesterday, we traded lunches!”
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### Author:  [@Mops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mops)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/40 "2024-06-21T10:59:08Z")
In Florida, or if other US states pass “Don’t say gay” laws, I wonder how always reminding girls not to covet their neighbours wife would be allowed.
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