# They are trying it again- Ten Commandments

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 20, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134 "2024-06-20T20:54:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Don’t mix blood and yeast in your sacrifices

NOW you tell me!

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> NOW you tell me!

It’s an easy mistake to make. Just keep your yeast in a _labeled_\* Tupperware container in a different cabinet than your sacrifices. And remember to thoroughly clean all utensils.

\* That time I mixed up the yeast and some aromatic powdered herbs for the sacrifice - what a mess! Luckily, She must have been in a good mood that day, so no plagues.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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Drinking straight blood is o.k. then.  
Got it. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/144 "2024-09-10T04:58:22Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> > Depends on what you mean by this. Obviously, commandments like “Thou shalt not steal” aren’t irrelevant in the sense that nobody outside the Abrahamic faiths has a problem with stealing.
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> The 10 Comandments are not universal moral laws; they only apply to Jews and practitioners of religions descended from Judaism. It’s the [Noahide Laws](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah?wprov=sfla1) which are supposed to bind all humanity.

But those are not universal moral laws any more than the “usual” list of ten commandments. Non-Jews/Christians may not be into murder or torturing animals, but someone still managed to sneak in a few lines about worshipping the correct god. Still unacceptable for public display.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/145 "2024-09-10T09:37:29Z")

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I generally drink a blood & vodka, but straight blood is not too bad.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/146 "2024-09-10T14:28:21Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> The 10 Comandments are not universal moral laws; they only apply to Jews and practitioners of religions descended from Judaism. It’s the [Noahide Laws](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah?wprov=sfla1) which are supposed to bind all humanity.

Unlike the **Naugahyde Laws** , which state that thou shalt not skin a Nauga alive, since they naturally molt their skins

> **[Naugahyde](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naugahyde)**
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> Naugahyde is an American brand of artificial leather. Naugahyde is a composite knit fabric backing and expanded polyvinyl chloride (PVC) coating. It was developed by Byron A. Hunter, a senior chemist at the United States Rubber Company, and is now manufactured and sold by the corporate spin-off Uniroyal Engineered Products LLC.
> Its name, first used as a trademark in 1936,\[full citation needed\] comes from the name of Naugatuck, Connecticut, where it was first produced.\[citation needed\] It is now...

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/147 "2024-09-10T14:46:51Z")

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He moved to Chicauga when that Nauga died!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I generally drink a blood & vodka, but straight blood is not too bad.

You could try a Caesar; same appearance, great taste!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Drinking straight blood is o.k. then.

Well, they don’t want to lose the vampiric demographic, after all.

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Unlike the **Naugahyde Laws** , which state that thou shalt not skin a Nauga alive, since they naturally molt their skins

But clubbing baby synthetics to make synthetic fur coats is still ok right?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/151 "2024-09-10T18:12:01Z")

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Moderating:

We’re about at my limit for goofing posts in a GD thread. Now would be a good time to drop further clowning. Please save it for the Pit. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/152 "2024-09-10T23:36:34Z")

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At any rate, the actual answer to the question “why those Ten Commandments”, is “because those particular Ten Commandments are what the people behind this want to post in schools.” It’s _always_ about pushing their exact brand of Christianity; you shouldn’t expect any deeper answer than that.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/153 "2024-09-12T15:39:10Z")

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Never mind, Discourse five words

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Are there teachers that have tried to go around these laws in a “clever” fashion and not have their jobs threatened?

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/155 "2024-09-13T02:24:28Z")

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Five-

ETA: Five characters, not words.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2025, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-are-trying-it-again-ten-commandments/1003134/156 "2025-11-08T07:17:09Z")

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[Biblical criminal Paxton is suing a school district for not worshippinng the religious law he violated.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ken-paxton-whose-wife-sued-211529335.html)

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> Texas Attorney General **Ken Paxton** (R), whose wife cited “[biblical grounds](https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/just-in-ken-paxtons-wife-announces-divorce-in-shock-statement-citing-recent-discoveries/)” for divorcing him, is suing a local school district for refusing to display the Ten Commandments.
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> Paxton [announced on social media](https://x.com/KenPaxtonTX/status/1986873795966345416) Friday, “I sued Galveston ISD (Independent School District) after it refused to display the Ten Commandments in classrooms. By refusing to follow the law, Galveston ISD chose to both blatantly ignore the Legislature and also ignore the legal and moral heritage of our nation.”

The Bible is nowhere near being the legal or moral heritage of the United States. If it were, the country would not have gained independence in the first place as we rebelled against a king.

You can ask his estranged wife which biblical crime he committed. (The formatting is from the original.)

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> In July, Paxton’s wife, state Sen. **Angela Paxton** (R) [announced on social media](https://x.com/AngelaPaxtonTX/status/1943366217479393512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1943366217479393512%7Ctwgr%5E8d7f1a3b0de63c504877c874e2fdecfeb49c02b7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaite.com%2Fmedia%2Fnews%2Fjust-in-ken-paxtons-wife-announces-divorce-in-shock-statement-citing-recent-discoveries%2F) that she was divorcing her husband for “biblical” reasons, specifically, adultery, which appears as [the Seventh Commandment](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020%3A14&version=KJV) in Exodus 20:14.

If you’re curious about the penalty for that crime demanded by the “legal and moral heritage of our nation”, feel free to read [Leviticus 20:10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2020%253A10&version=KJV) or [Deuteronomy 22:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2022%253A22&version=KJV).

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Fwiw, old testament adultery does not include a man cheating on his wife. It is if a married woman has sex with a guy who isn’t her husband. And both she and the guy are guilty, unless he raped her, in which case only he is guilty, but she’s still damaged goods. (Men are responsible for respecting each other’s property.)

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Certainly, if we’re going to put up the 10 commandments up, then we should follow Chronos suggestion from upthread.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> My suggestion in the Stupid Republicans thread: Put the Ten Commandments in Hebrew, since they’re only binding on Jews, anyway.

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> And both she and the guy are guilty, unless he raped her, in which case only he is guilty

Only if she screamed loud enough and enough people actually heard.

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No, if he raped her in the country, and no one was there to hear her scream, she is innocent.

I’m not saying it’s the most enlightened law in the world, but it’s not horrendous. Anyway, my point wasn’t about rape, it was about adultery, which is not a symmetric crime under Jewish law. It doesn’t matter whether or not the guy is married. It only matters whether the woman is married (to someone else) and if she is, they are both guilty of adultery. In general, a husband who cheats on his wife is not guilty of adultery under Jewish law.

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