# They arrested Elvis for that ricin

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 18, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001 "2013-04-18T02:55:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/21 "2013-04-24T00:05:14Z")

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What evidence did they have against this guy? He was from the area where the postmark was from. Check. His initials are KC. Check. He had previously written the Senator. Check.

That’s enough for six days in jail???

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/22 "2013-04-24T00:09:27Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> What evidence did they have against this guy? He was from the area where the postmark was from. Check. His initials are KC. Check. He had previously written the Senator. Check.

The main thing was that the letters were signed “I’m KC and I approved this message,” the same as some of his online posts. He also had a personal connection to Wicker (he’d performed for him). Even the guy’s lawyer admits it made sense to arrest him, and they released him once the evidence pointed somewhere else. What else are they supposed to do?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/23 "2013-04-24T00:21:19Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> What evidence did they have against this guy? He was from the area where the postmark was from. Check. His initials are KC. Check. He had previously written the Senator. Check.
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> That’s enough for six days in jail???

He pretends to be Elvis. He got off easy with six days.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/24 "2013-04-24T01:39:22Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Oh good. I was thinking this story wasn’t nearly weird enough.

Apparently it still needed a little more weirdness.

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> [http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/source-confirms-fbi-investigating-former-gop-candidate-in-ricin-poisioning.php](http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/04/source-confirms-fbi-investigating-former-gop-candidate-in-ricin-poisioning.php)  
> A former Republican candidate for Mississippi’s House of Representatives named J. Everett Dutschke expressed disbelief and dismay Tuesday shortly after a man he was accused of framing for mailing letters that tested positive for the poison ricin to President Barack Obama and other officials was released from jail. Dutschke has not been charged in the ricin case and has denied any involvement.  
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> This is not Dutschke’s first brush with the law. Earlier this year, Dutschke, who operates a taekwondo studio in Tupelo, Miss., was charged with one count of child molestation for a case involving a 7-year-old female. He was then released on bond. TPM attempted to speak with his attorney in that case, Lori Nail Basham, but her office said she was in court and unavailable to speak with us. Basham’s office would not comment about whether she was representing Dutschke in the ricin investigation.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/25 "2013-04-24T01:55:18Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Oh good. I was thinking this story wasn’t nearly weird enough.

If this damned month gets any weirder I may take up sniffing glue. Or maybe I’ll just sit quietly in the corner, whimpering softly to myself and clutching a teddy bear.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/26 "2013-04-24T02:41:31Z")

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Paul Kevin Curtis had an interesting comment after getting arrested.

I’m all shook up.

The Prosecutor decided not to charge and replied.

It’s Now or Never

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/27 "2013-04-24T06:34:28Z")

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Charges dropped Sounds like the case against Elvis is over. Elvis has left the police building.

> **['I'd never heard of ricin. I thought they said rice': Charges dropped against...](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313647/Ricin-suspect-released-All-charges-dropped-Elvis-impersonator-Kevin-Curtis.html)**
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> Defense lawyer Christi McCoy said that someone may have framed Kevin Curtis, suggesting that a former business associate may have set him up.

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> Charges have been dropped against a Mississippi man charged with sending ricin-laced poison letters to President Barack Obama, a U.S. senator and a state judge after his lawyer argued that he has been framed by a former friend.
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> ‘I’ve never heard of ricin or whatever. I thought they said rice. I told them I don’t eat rice,’ Kevin Curtis said at a press conference today, describing the moment he was questioned by federal authorities.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/28 "2013-04-24T13:46:06Z")

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The weird thing is, I thought about this dude “what if someone just pulled quotes from him to make it look like he did it”, then I discarded that thought because, when has that ever happened? But I do get points for at least considering the possibility.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/29 "2013-04-24T14:05:12Z")

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Just wait until Al Queda (sp?) runs across that “lets go down to the quarry” guy on the internet.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/30 "2013-04-24T14:07:35Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Paul Kevin Curtis had an interesting comment after getting arrested.
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> I’m all shook up.
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> The Prosecutor decided not to charge and replied.
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> It’s Now or Never

[You missed the easy one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3fFZGPuPh0).

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**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/31 "2013-04-24T15:30:34Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> The weird thing is, I thought about this dude “what if someone just pulled quotes from him to make it look like he did it”, then I discarded that thought because, when has that ever happened? But I do get points for at least considering the possibility.

Me too! I had briefly considered posting something to that effect at the time, and then didn’t bother… I missed a chance to look smart, and I can’t afford to waste those opportunities!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/32 "2013-04-24T15:45:41Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> If this damned month gets any weirder I may take up sniffing glue. Or maybe I’ll just sit quietly in the corner, whimpering softly to myself and clutching a teddy bear.

Some of the articles imply Fake Elvis may have been framed by his archenemy, a convicted sex offender. Pass the Elmer’s.

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> ‘I’ve never heard of ricin or whatever. I thought they said rice. I told them I don’t eat rice,’ Kevin Curtis said at a press conference today, describing the moment he was questioned by federal authorities.

I will not defame Mississippi, I will not defame Mississippi, I will not defame Mississippi…

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/33 "2013-04-24T16:23:16Z")

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Apparently, the cops are searching the houses of anyone who might have a reason to hate Elvis, which is how this Dutschke guy got dragged into this.

I think the FBI is grasping at straws at this point. If the Ricin guy was smart enough to find a scapegoat, you’d think he’d be smart enough to find one with no obvious connection to himself.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/34 "2013-04-24T16:44:47Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I will not defame Mississippi, I will not defame Mississippi, I will not defame Mississippi…

Dude… you spelled it right three times in a row (I think)…thats about as good as it gets.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/35 "2013-04-24T19:50:29Z")

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It was his rendition of “Please release me” that did it.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/36 "2013-04-24T20:01:22Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> Apparently, the cops are searching the houses of anyone who might have a reason to hate Elvis, which is how this Dutschke guy got dragged into this.
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> I think the FBI is grasping at straws at this point. If the Ricin guy was smart enough to find a scapegoat, you’d think he’d be smart enough to find one with no obvious connection to himself.

That assumes that attacking the President was the point, which it may not be.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/37 "2013-04-26T00:43:56Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The main thing was that the letters were signed “I’m KC and I approved this message,” the same as some of his online posts. He also had a personal connection to Wicker (he’d performed for him). Even the guy’s lawyer admits it made sense to arrest him, and they released him once the evidence pointed somewhere else. What else are they supposed to do?

Dear Mr. Politician,

Please note the enclosed ricin for your ingestion.

Regards,  
Shodan  
😃

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/38 "2013-04-27T16:32:39Z")

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Dutschke has been arrested.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/39 "2013-04-27T16:41:15Z")

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This is one of the best attempted Ricin poisoning of presidents and senators by Elvis ever.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-arrested-elvis-for-that-ricin/656001/40 "2013-04-27T16:57:47Z")

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If the internet and post office did not allow “socks” like this here fine establishment it wouldnta gone down this way.

Just sayin.

Oh, and my dog peed on Graceland once.

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