# They changed my granola bar **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 9, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121 "2015-11-09T17:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/1 "2015-11-09T17:50:17Z")
I’ve been eating a two-pack of Nature Valley oats and honey granola bars for breakfast for quite a while now. You know the ones - hard as a brick, able to shatter teeth and serve as a patch anywhere a small piece of particle board would work. And now - I go to buy a new box, and they’re “easier to bite” with a ‘better crunch’. Hard to bite was a selling point, damn it! And I’m assuming that I’m actually getting less granola now, since it isn’t packed in as tightly. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/2 "2015-11-09T18:38:20Z")
I seldom eat those, but the Oats & Honey are the ones that I like. And I _like_ them the way they were. Just right for dunking into tea. Haven’t tried the new ones yet. Maybe start a campaign to bring the old ones back? Like New Coke? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/3 "2015-11-09T18:52:23Z")
I tried the new ones. They shatter if you just look at them too hard. Og, I hate them so much. I’ll sign the petition if you start one. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/4 "2015-11-09T19:27:51Z")
[Crumbs EVERYWHERE.](http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr3767Yrcb1qazvpdo1_500.png) ---
**Author:** ![Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fool_in_the_Rain)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/5 "2015-11-09T20:16:48Z")
I agree wholeheartedly. I buy the dark chocolate and granola, and dip them in yogurt as a snack. If I scoop up too much it breaks now. And there’s crumbs freakin everywhere on my desk, looking like a slob afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/6 "2015-11-09T20:22:18Z")
I miss the old ones, I dipped them in coffee as a snack, and felt safer knowing they could be used as a black jack in a pinch. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/7 "2015-11-09T20:36:59Z")
I haven’t tried the new ones, but I have to say I love the ad showing people trying to break the old ones. ---
**Author:** ![WildBlueYonder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ce7236/32.png) [@WildBlueYonder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildBlueYonder)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/8 "2015-11-09T21:27:06Z")
not sure of what I last ate last week but it felt like a mixture of raw rice and who knows what…looked like rice too! ( I hate rice btw) ---
**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/9 "2015-11-10T00:21:01Z")
It’s always a safe bet that any product that was OK to begin with is never “new and improved” despite declarative exclamations on the package. I hope they DIAF. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/10 "2015-11-10T00:37:46Z")
This sort of thing is why I learned to make my own granola bars. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/11 "2015-11-10T05:38:13Z")
Lesson learnt: Next time you find a product you like, buy a lifetime supply while you still can. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/12 "2015-11-10T05:47:04Z")
My DH always makes fun of me because I stock up on things but when they discontinued his favorite toothpaste he was happy that I had four tubes stashed. Hah. And I too loved those bars for their very hardness and expect the new ones to be less of everything. Leave stuff ALONE, people! ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/13 "2015-11-10T14:17:01Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Lesson learnt: Next time you find a product you like, buy a lifetime supply while you still can. And the original bars probably had a shelf life measured in decades, so this would have been feasible! ---
**Author:** ![TheSpeculationElucidation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@TheSpeculationElucidation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSpeculationElucidation)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/14 "2015-11-12T13:09:35Z")
THANK YOU! I was just telling my boyfriend about this! He doesn’t understand. Haha. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/15 "2015-11-12T14:13:59Z")
Hah, I actually like that they’re easier to bite because they were so.goddamn.messy with crumbs and granola shards flying everywhere. On the other hand, though, “easier to bite” == “less dense” == “less actual granola per bar” == “paying the same amount for less granola”. And THAT I most definitely do NOT like. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/16 "2015-11-12T21:01:40Z")
I, too, liked the crunchy version and actively avoid soft granola bars. I had to switch to a protein bar to get back to the crunchy goodness. > [@Broomstick](#): > > This sort of thing is why I learned to make my own granola bars. Yes, but do you pack them down with one of [these](https://www.ohiopowertool.com/p-3806-chicago-pneumatic-ms690-tamper-3382000098.aspx?CAWELAID=1369021153&CAGPSPN=pla&gclid=Cj0KEQiAjpGyBRDgrtLqzbHayb8BEiQANZauh8G9xGcaKnyUc1xrllAnq5BaJYZiZoERXeQGlIsdaLMaAusJ8P8HAQ)? It’s the only way to get the right density. > [@TheSpeculationElucidation](#): > > THANK YOU! I was just telling my boyfriend about this! He doesn’t understand. Haha. Try smaller words. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/17 "2015-11-12T23:49:54Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > Yes, but do you pack them down with one of [these](https://www.ohiopowertool.com/p-3806-chicago-pneumatic-ms690-tamper-3382000098.aspx?CAWELAID=1369021153&CAGPSPN=pla&gclid=Cj0KEQiAjpGyBRDgrtLqzbHayb8BEiQANZauh8G9xGcaKnyUc1xrllAnq5BaJYZiZoERXeQGlIsdaLMaAusJ8P8HAQ)? It’s the only way to get the right density. I _wanted_ to but my contractor friend got upset when I borrowed his. I guess I didn’t get all the honey and oats off the business end and he had some 'splaining to do the next time he did concrete demolition work… Actually, I prefer chewy to crunchy, but to each their own. And if ya’ll think that compression tool looks scary you should check YouTube for the homemade “grain puffers” some folks have come up with. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/18 "2015-11-13T02:01:14Z")
Ah, my friend, you never should have admitted out loud that you liked them. Like so many of us, you are a victim of [this.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=698822)☹ ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/19 "2015-11-14T12:03:20Z")
They should have stuck with the first change - [cocaine.](http://time.com/3850058/woman-cocaine-granola-bar/) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121/20 "2015-11-14T12:55:20Z")
Most things I like are discontinued within six months of my discovering them, or just not stocked in my local supermarket anymore. I would say it happens for me at least once or twice a year. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-changed-my-granola-bar/737121.md?page=2)