# They had it with this motherfucking horse on this motherfucking plane **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 13, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082 "2023-11-13T20:23:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/1 "2023-11-13T20:23:40Z")
Apparently the threshold for too many horses loose on a plane is “one”. > **[Horse Escapes On Boeing 747: Listen As Captain Declares Emergency, Returns To...](https://viewfromthewing.com/horse-escapes-on-boeing-747-listen-as-captain-declares-emergency-returns-to-new-york/)** > > On Thursday, a horse escaped inside the cargo hold of a Boeing 747. The Air Atlanta Icelandic flight from New York JFK to Liage, Belgium declared an emergency while still in climb out as it reached 31,000 feet: "We are a cargo plane with a live... ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/2 "2023-11-13T20:50:33Z")
It was ever thus: > [@Scorpions On A Plane](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scorpions-on-a-plane/587459/13): > > The cargo hold / baggage compartments on jets are pressurized & reasonably warm. Certainly warm enough that Alaskan wildlife wouldn’t be bothered. Critters getting loose and trying to claw / chew their way out are not unheard of. Back in about 1960 my Dad used a fire axe to kill a thoroughbred race horse that had gotten loose in the main cabin area of a cargo-only plane. The horse was gonna tear the airplane apart if he wasn’t stopped. He’d already done a bunch of dangerous damage before th… plus the next few posts immediately below. Actually that whole thread is kinda entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/3 "2023-11-13T21:12:22Z")
Dick Francis book _Flying Finish_ involves a character working as a groom on a cargo plane delivering horses. Francis research included flying on those cargo trips. There’s a lot of detail about how horses are safely flown. The grooms setup stalls in the plane and put down hay. I can’t recall how they’re secured. Most likely its with a horse collar. Glad this horse didn’t get injured. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/4 "2023-11-13T21:20:52Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Glad this horse didn’t get injured. LSLDad wasn’t there. [![](https://images.pond5.com/hand-ax-natural-blood-dripping-footage-122101042_iconl.jpeg) ](https://images.pond5.com/hand-ax-natural-blood-dripping-footage-122101042_iconl.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/5 "2023-11-13T22:33:36Z")
Lucky, all things considered. > **SINGLE AIR TRANSIT COVERAGE** > > Single Air Transit is an additional coverage for horses making an intercontinental flight, whether it’s being imported or exported. A lot can happen on a plane and this will protect your investment in the event the horse is determined to be of danger to the safety of the aircraft, crew, passengers, or cargo and must be destroyed. [https://www.jarvisinsurance.com/coverage/equine-insurance-coverage](https://www.jarvisinsurance.com/coverage/equine-insurance-coverage) ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/6 "2023-11-13T22:37:32Z")
Without even looking at the article (yet), @Darren_Garrison continues his reign as Thread Titler Extraordinaire and Plenipotentiary. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/7 "2023-11-14T03:47:57Z")
A guy I knew that worked at MSFT obviously got paid too much. His teen daughter had a couple of horses and would go to competitions around N America. They didn’t drive the horses but used [Equi Jet](https://equijet.com/) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/8 "2023-11-14T03:49:35Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Without even looking at the article (yet), @Darren_Garrison continues his reign as Thread Titler Extraordinaire and Plenipotentiary. I can’t disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/9 "2023-11-15T14:38:32Z")
I hate it when that happens: [https://www.cnn.com/travel/horse-escapes-on-boeing-747/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/travel/horse-escapes-on-boeing-747/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/10 "2023-11-15T18:30:10Z")
The elephant in the room in addition to the horse on the plane is the fuel dumping. How much does **20 TONS** of jet fuel cost? I figure 6666 gallons but I don’t know how much it costs. Figures are all over the map. But at $5/gal that’s over $33,000. Whinney! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/11 "2023-11-15T20:01:54Z")
You can let yourself out the back door. There’s juice in the refrigerator. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/12 "2023-11-15T21:44:56Z")
[golf clap] ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/13 "2023-11-16T00:22:08Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Glad this horse didn’t get injured. [According to the CNN article](https://www.cnn.com/travel/horse-escapes-on-boeing-747/index.html), the horse was so badly injured it had to be euthanized. > The horse, which partially escaped its stall while airborne, had to be euthanized due to the extent of its injuries, according to two people familiar with the episode. > … > The horse was among 15 being transported to Liege — an import hub for Europe — when turbulence struck shortly after takeoff, according to John Cuticelli, the head of the corporation responsible for operating animal quarantine and export at John F. Kennedy International Airport. > > The horse became spooked and jumped halfway over the high front barrier of the stall and became hung up, with his front legs on one side of the barrier and his hind legs trapped on the inside of the stall. > … > Cuticelli said, “we dispersed veterinary care, animal handlers, medical equipment, horse slings, a horse ambulance, everything necessary to accommodate that horse.” > > “We had to take the other horses out to get the equipment in to get the horse out,” he said. > > But once the animal was on the ground, it was determined that its injuries were too severe to survive and it was euthanized, Cuticelli said. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/14 "2023-11-16T00:32:03Z")
Sounds more like the horse had had it with bein’ with these motherfuckin’ humans on this motherfuckin’ plane! I’m gonna bet the dumped fuel cost was not a lot compared to the cost of the horse. And of the cost of redoing the mission the next day with one fewer horse. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/15 "2023-11-16T00:46:09Z")
A very sad situation all the way ‘round. We discussed awhile back - in this thread, or another one? I can’t find it - the pilot having authority to order the horse euthanized midflight if it could be stopped in no other way from endangering the aircraft. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/16 "2023-11-16T01:51:54Z")
Follow my link in post #2 of this thread. “Euthanized” is not quite accurate. More like slaughtered. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/17 "2023-11-16T02:02:24Z")
> [@mixdenny](#): > > The elephant in the room in addition to the horse on the plane is the fuel dumping. How much does **20 TONS** of jet fuel cost? Not to mention the ecological disaster. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-had-it-with-this-motherfucking-horse-on-this-motherfucking-plane/993082/18 "2023-11-16T02:33:14Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Not to mention the ecological disaster. At least they didn’t dump it on a school playground. > **[Elementary school kids doused as jet dumps fuel before emergency landing](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-01-14/plane-dumps-fuel-on-students-on-school-playground-en-route-to-lax-officials-say)** > > A Delta flight returning to LAX dumped fuel over southeast L.A. county, affecting some 44 people across four schools in Cudahy and South Gate.