# They made a sequel to that!?!

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**Created:** [April 17, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015 "2006-04-17T16:02:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/1 "2006-04-17T16:02:06Z")

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This is not to discuss all sequels of bad movies. There are some movies, that did incredibly well, either in theater or in DVD sales, like Big Mommas House, or Friday, or Scary Movie. Those movies did well enough that the money drove the sequel. Nor is it to talk about sequles that were bad, plenty of stuff therre already. I want to talk about movies that didn’t deserve a sequel and yet got one.  
I was in the video store and saw this:  
[D&D 2: Wrath of the Dragon God](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406728/)  
I saw the first one in the theater and wow, did it suck. Ok, that may be my opinion, but I’m its core audience (well I may be older than the core audience), and I wanted it to be good. There were some good moments, but they were few and far between. So what genius decided that movie warranted a sequel? Did the first one do well in DVD sales? I can’t imagine it did, but maybe. I do know that I’ll be renting it someday soon. Doubt I’ll buy it though.  
Also I saw this movie:  
[The Net 2.0](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449077/) And again, the first one was decent enough, but without Bullock, it shouldn’t have been made. I think it’d be hilarious if there was an argument over money, and Bullock said, “I want $X or I won’t do the movie”, and the producer retorted, “Fine, we don’t need you, this movie can carry itself without you!” and in my head there’s a quick cut to that guy managing a dive bar in West Hollywood. 🙂

So I now put it to you Dopers, what other movies are actually sequels to movies that were either horrible or did horribly.

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**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/2 "2006-04-17T16:16:50Z")

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**Deuce Bigalow, European Gigolo** – 'nuff said!

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/3 "2006-04-17T17:22:30Z")

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Yeah, that qualifies. i wonder if there should be a new category called, “needed a loss for my taxes”. I mean how does Rob Schneider not get laughed out of whatever office he’s pitching it in?

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**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/4 "2006-04-17T18:06:14Z")

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Actually, every time I am notified of a new reincarnation of Scary movie I am stunned. I can see that they are popular, but the series has been outright awful from the very beginning and, as I understand it, gets worse by each installation.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/5 "2006-04-17T18:25:19Z")

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It comes as a shock to most people that there was a sequel to “Rosemary’s Baby” - starrring Patty Duke & Tina Louise(!):

[Look What’s Happened to Rosemary’s Baby](http://imdb.com/title/tt0074815/).

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/6 "2006-04-17T18:28:50Z")

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I walked out of **Speed 2: Cruise Control**. Which begs the question: “Why did you go to Speed 2: Cruise Control in the first place?” And for that, I have no answer. My excuse: I was 16.

Suffice it to say, that movie really, really, really, really (ad infinitum) sucked

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/7 "2006-04-17T18:35:59Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> D&D 2: Wrath of the Dragon God  
> I saw the first one in the theater and wow, did it suck. Ok, that may be my opinion, but I’m its core audience (well I may be older than the core audience), and I wanted it to be good. There were some good moments, but they were few and far between. So what genius decided that movie warranted a sequel? Did the first one do well in DVD sales? I can’t imagine it did, but maybe. I do know that I’ll be renting it someday soon. Doubt I’ll buy it though.

If it makes anything clearer, the sequel was a Sci-Fi Channel original movie. I didn’t watch it, but from what I understand, it has nothing to do with the plot of the original.

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/8 "2006-04-17T20:16:52Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> it has nothing to do with the plot of the original

Really? Even with Bruce Payne reprising his role as Damodar? The DVD on amazon says it is the sequel.  
[Link](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B7QCG8/qid=1145304730/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5988660-7543009?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130)

> [@Amazon Editor Review](#):
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> Wrath of the Dragon God, the sequel to the unfortunate 2000 theatrical release Dungeons and Dragons, is a pleasant surprise in that it not only hews closer to the popular role-playing game that provides its source material, but it’s also an enjoyable fantasy adventure with plenty of action and special effects.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/9 "2006-04-17T20:32:32Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> Really? Even with Bruce Payne reprising his role as Damodar? The DVD on amazon says it is the sequel.  
> [Link](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B7QCG8/qid=1145304730/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5988660-7543009?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130)

According to the IMDB, Damodar is now a magic-user, not a warrior:

> [@](#):
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> Based on the phenomenally successful role-playing game, Dungeons & Dragons 2 takes you deeper into the dark and fantastical world of this fantasy epic. When the evil sorcerer Damodar braves a perilous whirlwind vortex to steal the elemental black orb he declares a sinister plan of vengeance against the kingdom of Ismir. Berek, a decorated warrior, and Melora, an amateur sorceress join four heroes representing Intelligence, Wisdom, Honor and Strength to battle against Damodar’s growing army of gruesome creatures, flying harpies and an ice dragon to reach a vault room holding the orb. Together, they build their own army to retrieve the orb using elemental forces to defeat Damodar before he summons the sleeping black dragon whose omnipotent evil powers could lay waste to the entire kingdom.

Sounds like they just recycled the character’s name. Although it’s possible that he’s multi-classed since the first movie.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/10 "2006-04-17T20:47:18Z")

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I was stunned to find out that there were at least two sequels to “From Dusk Til Dawn” which I’ve never seen.  
The first had some interesting moments, but was nothing to write home about. I can’t imagine what excuse they could have for the sequels and what horrible affairs they must be.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/11 "2006-04-17T20:51:06Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> Really? Even with Bruce Payne reprising his role as Damodar? The DVD on amazon says it is the sequel.

It’s a sequel in the slightest sense of the word. Damodar serves as the cackling bad guy, but his backstory in the previous movie doesn’t matter much at all after his initial introduction. It actually wasn’t that terrible. I’ve managed to block the first one out of my mind. The second was… watchable. perhaps even a bit enjoyable. Much less silly, for the most part. They at least tried to take things a tiny bit seriously.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/12 "2006-04-17T20:53:56Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> According to the IMDB, Damodar is now a magic-user, not a warrior:
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> Sounds like they just recycled the character’s name. Although it’s possible that he’s multi-classed since the first movie.

Resurrected–minus the blue lips.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/13 "2006-04-17T20:54:50Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Sounds like they just recycled the character’s name. Although it’s possible that he’s multi-classed since the first movie.

[Geek Mode]

I’m going to assume he’s human, in which case he wouldn’t be able to multi-class per the V2.0 rules. You probably meant that he had dual-classed.

I haven’t played in years and I’m still such a D&D geek. So sad.

[/Geek Mode]

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/14 "2006-04-17T21:13:03Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> [Geek Mode]
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> I’m going to assume he’s human, in which case he wouldn’t be able to multi-class per the V2.0 rules. You probably meant that he had dual-classed.
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> I haven’t played in years and I’m still such a D&D geek. So sad.
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> [/Geek Mode]

Unfortunetly, I can’t find any information as to wether the movie was filmed using 2nd Edition rules, or 3.0 rules.

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/15 "2006-04-17T21:27:28Z")

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What issues were brought up in _Miss Congeniality_ that required a sequel to flesh out?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/16 "2006-04-17T21:28:48Z")

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_Sin City 2_ is now in pre-production. [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458481/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458481/)

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/17 "2006-04-17T21:40:56Z")

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I’ll nominate **The Cutting Edge 2**. The original can be seen several times a week on your friendly local movie channel. Ugh.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/18 "2006-04-18T00:55:16Z")

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I was surprised they made a sequal to **Before Sunrise** …

\*\*Before Sunset \*\* was good - but unnecessary. The first one ended so ambiguously, which I think was part of its charm.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/19 "2006-04-18T01:00:44Z")

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House of the Dead 2. On what concievable level was that neccesary? Also, Hollow Man 2. I like the first :eek: but surely one was ample. I also believe that at this stage, there are more Wishmaster sequels than Nightmare on Elm street movies. Wild Things 2,3. American Psycho 2. Cruel Intentions 2,3.

Just as long as there is a name people can recognise, they’ll sequel it.

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**Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-made-a-sequel-to-that/353015/20 "2006-04-18T01:04:10Z")

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They are making another _Rocky_ movie.

Honest.

> **[Rocky Balboa (2006) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479143/)**
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> Rocky Balboa: Directed by Sylvester Stallone. With Sylvester Stallone, Burt Young, Antonio Tarver, Geraldine Hughes. Thirty years after the ring of the first bell, Rocky Balboa comes out of retirement and dons his gloves for his final fight against...

Stallone is now almost 60 years old. I assumed this film would involve his mentoring a younger boxer, some plucky kid from the streets of Philly who reminds Rocky of himself at his age, etc. No such luck:

“Rocky Balboa (Sylvester Stallone) has now been retired for some time, but hard-up for money, he decides to step back into the ring against a few small-time boxers. Everything changes, though, when Rocky is offered the opportunity to step in with the reigning Heavyweight Champion, Mason “The Line” Dixon. Does Rocky still have what it takes to make another Championship comeback??”

:rolleyes: Only in the movieverse, Sly.

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