# They should be nailed themselves (animal cruelty case) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 7, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712 "2011-01-07T04:20:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/1 "2011-01-07T04:20:13Z")
[http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110106/police-investigate-puppies-shot-with-nail-gun-110106/](http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110106/police-investigate-puppies-shot-with-nail-gun-110106/) In the Montérégie, a black lab female and her puppies where left for dead after being shot by a nail gun, two of the eight puppies didn’t make it. Fortunately the other puppies have survived and been adopted. The mother is also recovering after being shot with a nail gun in the head. The police are still looking for who could have done this. Unfortunately, if they find whoever did this, they probably get away with a slap on the wrist. These pieces of refuse should be made to endure what these puppies endured. ---
**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/2 "2011-01-07T23:07:00Z")
Why? ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/3 "2011-01-08T01:05:29Z")
When I was a teen on my grandpa’s farm I was selected to exterminate an unwanted litter of kittens. It was tough, but I got the job done, as quick and painless as possible (while on a backwater farm, that is…) Later, when I told grandpa how badly it hurt, he told me: _“Good – it proves you have a heart.”_ God bless the man – I learned a lot from him. Obviously, the sickos in the OP’s link felt nothing; they couldn’t even get a proper job done, assuming euthanasia was their intent. 'Tis a pity that animal cruelty carries only a maximum jail sentence of 3-4 years, and these jerks probably will plead it down…and none of us can treat them like a basket of unwanted kittens. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/4 "2011-01-08T01:25:13Z")
> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > Why? Why not? Shooting living things with a nail gun for fun is either okay, or it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/5 "2011-01-08T13:31:36Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Why not? Shooting living things with a nail gun for fun is either okay, or it’s not. How do you know it was for fun? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/6 "2011-01-08T14:05:30Z")
> [@fuzzypickles](#): > > When I was a teen on my grandpa’s farm I was selected to exterminate an unwanted litter of kittens. It was tough, but I got the job done, as quick and painless as possible (while on a backwater farm, that is…) Later, when I told grandpa how badly it hurt, he told me: _“Good – it proves you have a heart.”_ God bless the man – I learned a lot from him. > > Obviously, the sickos in the OP’s link felt nothing; they couldn’t even get a proper job done, assuming euthanasia was their intent. 'Tis a pity that animal cruelty carries only a maximum jail sentence of 3-4 years, and these jerks probably will plead it down…and none of us can treat them like a basket of unwanted kittens. Reminds me of this: > **[E-mails from an Asshole](http://www.dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=53)** ---
**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/7 "2011-01-08T15:09:09Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Why not? Shooting living things with a nail gun for fun is either okay, or it’s not. Why not? I think it would drag us down to the barbaric level to recreate evil as punishment. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/8 "2011-01-08T15:15:59Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Reminds me of this: > > [E-mails from an Asshole](http://www.dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=53) After reading OP, this cheered me up a lot. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/9 "2011-01-08T16:30:15Z")
> [@Laudenum](#): > > How do you know it was for fun? Because if you’re shooting something for the purpose of making it dead, you keep shooting until it’s dead. You don’t leave it suffering. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/10 "2011-01-08T18:35:17Z")
I’ve made this suggestion before. People convicted of acts of animal cruelty like this should have to register like sex offenders. They’d have to go around their neighbourhood and tell everyone that they had been convicted of torturing an animal. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/11 "2011-01-08T18:54:23Z")
Good idea **LN** , makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/12 "2011-01-08T20:47:46Z")
I own dogs and like dogs, but even the worst behavior towards an animal never warrants a person being killed or forced to endure physical harm. I don’t believe whatsoever in the existence of animal rights. The only reason I can even find myself supporting animal cruelty laws at all is just because wanton cases of animal cruelty represent extremely antisocial behavior and are probably something we want to keep under control as a society. I think if for no other reason than someone who, for example, burns a neighborhood dog to death at age 17 is someone I _want_ being put through some form of institutionalization (in that specific case I’d prefer through psychiatric versus criminal institutions.) ---
**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/13 "2011-01-08T21:22:21Z")
> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > Why? > [@Laudenum](#): > > How do you know it was for fun? > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I own dogs and like dogs, but even the worst behavior towards an animal never warrants a person being killed or forced to endure physical harm. All three of you worthless pieces of shit can die slowly and painfully, by being tied up in a plastic bag that I’m about to throw in the river. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/14 "2011-01-08T21:25:42Z")
> [@Laudenum](#): > > How do you know it was for fun? Well, it probably wasn’t for construction… ---
**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/15 "2011-01-08T23:59:09Z")
> [@starwarsfreek42](#): > > All three of you worthless pieces of shit can die slowly and painfully, by being tied up in a plastic bag that I’m about to throw in the river. Tell me more about what a caring person you are… ---
**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/16 "2011-01-09T00:06:24Z")
> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > Tell me more about what a caring person you are… I love responses like this! Please, do point out where I claimed to care about anyone. Go on, I’ll be waiting. _opens box of cookies_ ---
**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/17 "2011-01-09T00:58:33Z")
> [@starwarsfreek42](#): > > I love responses like this! Please, do point out where I claimed to care about anyone. Go on, I’ll be waiting. > > _opens box of cookies_ My mistake, in my world view people like to present themselves as caring. So, why should I die? ---
**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/18 "2011-01-09T01:19:09Z")
> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > My mistake, in my world view people like to present themselves as caring. > So, why should I die? I didn’t say you _should_, I said you _could_. Read for comprehension, please. ---
**Author:** ![SweetLucy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@SweetLucy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SweetLucy)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/19 "2011-01-09T02:26:07Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I own dogs and like dogs, but even the worst behavior towards an animal never warrants a person being killed or forced to endure physical harm. > > I don’t believe whatsoever in the existence of animal rights. The only reason I can even find myself supporting animal cruelty laws at all is just because wanton cases of animal cruelty represent extremely antisocial behavior and are probably something we want to keep under control as a society. I think if for no other reason than someone who, for example, burns a neighborhood dog to death at age 17 is someone I _want_ being put through some form of institutionalization (in that specific case I’d prefer through psychiatric versus criminal institutions.) So the fact that an animal suffers pain, in and of itself, doesn’t bother you? It’s only because the offender may go on to similarly harm human beings? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712/20 "2011-01-09T03:22:24Z")
> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > Why not? > I think it would drag us down to the barbaric level to recreate evil as punishment. Punishment, shmonishment. It’s simple logic. People are kept civilized by two things: internal constraint (conscience) or external restraint (fear of punishment). When the former is absent, as is clearly the case here, the latter needs to be cranked up to eleven. That, or permanently removing the two-legged wild animals from society, with or without putting them down. Either way. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-should-be-nailed-themselves-animal-cruelty-case/566712.md?page=2)