They’ve found a 35,000 year old saber tooth tiger kitten

Homotherium latidens wasn’t quite as nuts in the tooth department as Smilodon. It looks like they may have not shown visible sabers when their mouths were closed. Still pretty cool, though.

Yeah, the George Page Museum in Los Angeles has tons of saber tooth cat skulls that were found in the local tar pits.

Even if the DNA is fully intact, I doubt we even could clone them. I don’t know if there’s any extant species closely enough related to be able to serve as a host-mother.

So, we’d have to clone an extant in-between species first, and then clone the saber-tooth cat…

ha ha :slight_smile:

I guess I didn’t probe enough on the saber-tooth cat stuff. So, Eurasia for animals of this type was known.

[Pedantic-mode-on] From my visit to the La Brea Tar Pits years ago, I learned that there is no such thing as a saber-toothed tiger. The animal in question is a saber-toothed cat. They are not related to tigers at all. Saber-toothed cat is the correct name.
[Pedantic-mode-off]

Well, if we’re going there we might as well square the pedantry. While the overall grouping are known as the sabre-toothed cats, the sub-group Homotherium latidens belongs to is usually separated out as the scimitar-toothed cats, with their slightly smaller, serrated canines. By contrast the Smilodon lineages are often referred to as the dirk-toothed cats with their longer, dagger-like canines.

Because if it is one things humans like doing it is classifying things into endless nested hierarchies :slight_smile:.

This becomes handy in the inevitable thread of Smilodon fatalis vs Homotherium latidens - who wins in a fight?

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I want to see a katana-toothed cat.

The entire group of sabertooths are apparently only distantly related to any modern cats at all. They’re just very cat-shaped predators.

Admittedly, sufficiently cat-shaped that when I see a picture of one my brain goes “cat!”

The internet basically concurs:
“ The last common ancestor of a saber-tooth cat (like Smilodon) and a tiger is an ancient feline species that lived roughly 20 million years ago, which is considered to be a very early divergence point from the lineage leading to modern cats, placing the saber-toothed cat in a separate subfamily called Machairodontinae, distinct from the subfamily containing tigers (Pantherinae).”

Or put another way, modern tigers are equally closely related to sabretooths as any other modern cat is.

And sabretooths, like cheetahs, aren’t even true cats at all, as their claws aren’t retractable. They’re closer to cats than they are to, say, dogs, but there’s still a big difference.

Cheetahs are true cats, they’ve just secondarily lost the ability to retract their claws as an adaptation to cursorial hunting. They are now considered a sister group to the New World pumas and jaguarundis (they are in Acinonyx, the jaguarundi is Herpailurus on that chart).

Similarly the sabre-toothed cats are absolutely cats in the family Felidae as currently defined, just an extinct branch.

50,000 year old baby mammoth has been found in the same general area as the tiger cub.

I wonder if there is anything else to be found.

That’s immediately what came to my mind. If there are two cases of such amazing preservation in there, maybe there are more?

I expect there will be people looking.

– the article says that one reason frozen soft parts aren’t often found is that as soon as they thaw out something comes along and eats them. Which seems to imply that there very likely is a good deal more to be found, if the researchers can just get ahead of the scavengers.

I don’t want to put it in a cage and gawk at it. I want to run a dude ranch and hunting lodge.

Within the boundaries of the ranch, metal, plastic, and gunpowder will be forbidden. If you want to dine on mammoth steak, like your ancestors did, you have to kill it with a flint-tipped spear, like your ancestors did.

And you have to fight off the saber-toothed cats, like your ancestors did.

Even better if you’re dumped in naked and have to make the spear yourself (after you’ve found the materials).

Cold? Better hope the mammoth has a nice thick skin.

I wouldn’t go that far. Humans have never been solitary predators. We have always been pack hunters. A stone-age hunter would venture into the field wearing clothes sewn by the tribal tailor, and carrying weapons made by the tribal flint-knapper.

Even if you had to make all of your own gear, you would make sure your kit was assembled before you began the hunt. You hunt small game for survival. Megafauna required planning and preparation.

(And besides: my dude ranch will offer classes in leather-working, bone-carving, flint-knapping, and foraging for the vegetables and herbs to accompany the mammoth steak.) :grinning:

I doubt this is true. Pack hunters wrt larger game animals. But I’m sure early humans did quite well with solitary hunts for birds, rabbits, squirrels, sloths, etc.

ETA: ^ posted while I was typing

Pretty sure all hunting was for survival early on.