# They won't stay dead **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 4, 2006, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337 "2006-01-04T03:13:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/21 "2006-01-04T17:14:58Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > Ensign Harry Kim died on Voyager at least once, but they got a spare Kim from an alternate universe (shortly before that Kim’s entire crew died when that Voyager self-destructed to take out an attatched alien ship). AND THEN THEY JOKED ABOUT IT! AAAUUUUUGH! Sorry. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/22 "2006-01-04T19:29:08Z")
In the comic books, you can’t really consider yourself established as a superhero unless you’ve come back from the dead at least once. It’s a rite of passage like getting your first nemesis. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/23 "2006-01-04T20:11:03Z")
Buffy, Angel, and Spike from the Buffy and Angel series. MANY DC and Marvel Comics characters, including Hal Jordan (Green Lantern), Oliver Queen (Green Arrow), Jason Todd (Robin 2/Red Hood), Aunt May Parker, Colossus, Psylocke, and Jean Grey (Phoenix). ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/24 "2006-01-04T20:19:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Felix Lighter CIA agent from the James Bond movies was killed in Live and Let Die, but showed up in at least one other movie (Never Say Never Again) Neither in the books nor the movies did Felix Leiter die. I;m afraid you’re confused there. He _was_ played by a different actor almost every time, though, although David/Al Hedison has the distinction of being the one actor to play him twice (in **Live and Let Die** in 1973 and then in **License to Kill** 16 years later). He was played by a pre-McGarret Jack lord in Dr. No, the first Bond movie, by Cec Linder in **Goldfinger** and by others in **Diamonds are Forever** , **the Living Daylights** , and **Never Say Never Again** (the only black Felix eiter. Connery suggested that maybe that would help people remember him.) In the books, Leiter got tossed in a shark tank in Live and Let Die, and lost a hand, but came back with a hook in the next book, and several times afterwards. In the movies, Felix gets the shark tank in **License to Kill** , but doesn’t seem to lose any body parts (although his wife gets killed). I don’t recall him showing up since. Joe Don Baker seems to play the (non-Leiter) CIA agent now. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/25 "2006-01-04T22:08:26Z")
\*\*Aeryn Sun \*\* on Farscape. ---
**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/26 "2006-01-04T22:30:32Z")
Fluffy and Uranus the uber-cute teddy bear things from Duckman would be terribly mutilated and killed only to be back unharmed the next episode. No explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/27 "2006-01-04T23:08:44Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Neither in the books nor the movies did Felix Leiter die. I;m afraid you’re confused there. He wasn’t the guy killed in New Orleans during the funeral and was put into the coffin? I admit, it’s been years since I’ve watched a James Bond movie and only managed to get through one book, but a huge James Bond fan I know joked about this very thing. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/28 "2006-01-04T23:11:57Z")
Whistler died in Blade, but was somehow only mostly dead, apparently, since he was back in Blade II without much fanfare. I think he’s all the way dead, now, though. ---
**Author:** ![LiveOnAPlane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@LiveOnAPlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LiveOnAPlane)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/29 "2006-01-05T02:19:13Z")
> [@Odinoneeye](#): > > He wasn’t the guy killed in New Orleans during the funeral and was put into the coffin? I’m not sure about the movies, but in the novels, Leiter never died, although he did lose an arm. Didn’t slow him down much, though! ---
**Author:** ![LiveOnAPlane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@LiveOnAPlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LiveOnAPlane)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/30 "2006-01-05T02:22:36Z")
Forgot to say, that the guy killed & put into a coffin in the movie was a British Secret Service agent, not Leiter, who was form the Company (CIA). ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/31 "2006-01-05T02:23:53Z")
> [@](#): > > He wasn’t the guy killed in New Orleans during the funeral and was put into the coffin? > > I admit, it’s been years since I’ve watched a James Bond movie and only managed to get through one book, but a huge James Bond fan I know joked about this very thing. 'Fraid not. If you wath the film again, watch carefully – Hedison, playing Leiter, in fact, appears in the scene just before that one, telling Bond that their man is “keeing an eye on the Filt of Sole” restaurant in New Orleans. They then cut to that unfortunte individual, just as the funeral starts up with its slow dirge. They don’t show the death during this second run-through of the scene. After the band exits, playing the upbeat march, Leiter and Bond come into the scene, talking about how someone go a big sendoff, surprisingly unaware that it was their own CIA guy. (Leiter shoulda asked what happened to him). ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Smith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e95f7d/32.png) [@Winston\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Smith)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/32 "2006-01-05T02:32:35Z")
> [@buckgully](#): > > Chris Elliot died in several episodes of “Get A Life”, including one where neighborhood kids used his dismembered head as a soccer ball. He always came back without any explanation. > > I seem to half remember an interview where either he or his writers admitted to lifting that gag from “The Young Ones”. I was going to post this, too. Heh. I’m glad I’m not the only one who remembers it! ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/33 "2006-01-05T02:33:37Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > In the movies, Felix gets the shark tank in **License to Kill** , but doesn’t seem to lose any body parts (although his wife gets killed). IIRC he lost a leg. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/34 "2006-01-05T02:41:08Z")
> [@Odinoneeye](#): > > He wasn’t the guy killed in New Orleans during the funeral and was put into the coffin? If he was, 007 wouldn’t be thanking him at the end of the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/35 "2006-01-05T03:27:12Z")
_From the OP:_ > [@](#): > > Any others? I’m not interested in death & rebirth when central to the plot, so don’t bother listing Spock, ET or Jesus . . . or Buffy, or Angel, or . . . Just read the OP, folks. There was a hilarious but short-lived show called [The War Next Door](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247108/) in which a retired secret agent finds that his arch-nemesis is now his nextdoor neighbor in the suburbs. They have a fight to the death in which the villain dies; but the hero is surprised to find his neighbor back and good as new. The villain says: “I _told_ you – you and I are locked in a neverending dance of death!” He seems really happy about it. If I recall, he got killed in every episode. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/36 "2006-01-05T03:53:18Z")
**Baldwin** ’s post reminded me of Spy Vs Spy in MAD magazine. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/37 "2006-01-05T05:35:10Z")
Well, _most_ of [Agrajag](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_characters_from_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Agrajag) 's deaths aren’t necessary to the plot. Then again, I suppose most of them aren’t really mentioned in the books either. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/38 "2006-01-05T13:54:24Z")
I came in to say NOBODY on a soap opera is ever really dead. Days of Our lives resurrected Georgia Brady, who died at birth in her mother’s arms, as Chelsea. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337/39 "2006-01-06T01:49:57Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I came in to say NOBODY on a soap opera is ever really dead. Days of Our lives resurrected Georgia Brady, who died at birth in her mother’s arms, as Chelsea. Even by Soap Opera standards in general and DAYS standards in particular, Stefano (mentioned above) has abused the resurrection privilege. I know for a fact he’s been burned to death, shot twice, had a fatal heart attack, been killed in an earthquake, died in a car crash, been killed by a demon and whatever else, and he still keeps returning. [hijack]And what’s with this DAYS thing of bringing back actors but in different roles? You can’t fool me, that’s not Roman it’s Chris Kositchek, Roman’s the guy over there pretending to be a doctor that Marlena forgot she married, and that’s Patch’s sister over there not the vill not that i ever watch DAYS, mind you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/they-wont-stay-dead/338337.md?page=1)