# They're very bad people. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594 "2011-08-13T18:13:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/41 "2011-08-14T05:28:36Z")
He’s talking about them. And I agree with him. They should do something about it. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/42 "2011-08-14T06:31:47Z")
> [@](#): > > **Der Trihs** : Pretty obviously, it’s a parody (and not much of an exaggeration) of how many people (especially the right) talk about the bogeyman of the week. Communists, socialists, liberals, Muslims, poor people, whatever. “They hate our freedom!” No no no no no. It’s not about _them_ and it’s not about _me_, of course. I’m perfectly self-satisfied. (cough) It’s about _you_ and your obsessions and hatreds. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/43 "2011-08-14T06:49:50Z")
The thing is, you are lumping things that aren’t true with things that are. There really are people for whom the first three sentences are true. And the fifth sentence, while hyperbole, does contain nuggets of truth. They don’t value what we value, to the point that they actively fight against those things. Sure, everything won’t be gone, but it will feel like it. Now, of course, you may question who I am talking about. The thing is, there’s no particular somebody. It’s very general, and applies to the fringes of any belief system, whether religious or political. And, unfortunately, the fringes in some are larger and/or have more power. Still, the rest is bollocks, unless maybe you are talking about some types of criminals. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/44 "2011-08-14T06:50:46Z")
I agree 100% with the OP! This must be stopped, and soon. When are they going to do something about it? Or should that be, when are they going to do something about them? Or maybe, when is something about them going to be done by them? Or us? Or…wait a sec…gotta think this thing through…😕 Okay, I think I got it. If they don’t do something about them trying to do something to us, we are going to have to do something to them!!! Or it? I’ll have to get back to you. But they are evil any way you look at it. Or them. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/45 "2011-08-14T13:13:49Z")
> [@groo](#): > > They don’t merely hate us – they have contempt for our very existence. We are being victimized by them. They want to destroy our way of life, and it’s not just that – they want to destroy it forever. Any hopes we have, for our children, our country, the Earth – they want to destroy all of that. They’re not like us – they’re not valid citizens, they have no conscience, and they’re really so alien that the world would be better off without them. Anything you think is good, they’re against that. They don’t value the same things we value; if left unchecked, everything – EVERYTHING will be gone, and there will be no hope. No hope for us, for our children, forever. Even when they sound like they might agree with us on some minor thing, it’s really part of their longer term agenda to weaken all that is good and usher in a new way of life that is disgraceful, unlawful and will bring ruin on us and our civilization. Sure, freedom of speech is one thing, but really, when people have such vile and destructive ideas, the ideas themselves hurt our civilization, and this is a case in which removing the contagion of those ideas is probably justified. > > I’m embarrassed (for us) that I have to add: this post may have some sarcastic content. Right on!! _Fuck_ Yankee fans! Looking down their nose at the rest of American Baseball fans just 'cause we don’t have a 9 figure payroll. I fucking hate those animals. They’re destroying baseball, and they are coming for your mother and her apple pie, too! ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/46 "2011-08-14T13:53:36Z")
I don’t know, I kind of like them. ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/47 "2011-08-14T14:00:25Z")
[Groucho said it better](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtMV44yoXZ0) ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/48 "2011-08-14T14:04:30Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Down with this sort of thing! Careful now. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/49 "2011-08-14T14:14:25Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Pretty obviously, it’s a parody (and not much of an exaggeration) of how many people (especially the right) talk about the bogeyman of the week. Communists, socialists, liberals, Muslims, poor people, whatever. “They hate our freedom!” Quick, before everybody’s irony meters have time to redline and explode, start ranting about how _those people_ also make absurd broad brush statements and spew their bigotry over entire groups of people with the most vituperative nonsense possible. Then, when you’re really on a roll, complain that _those damn people_ are the sort who turn honest political disagreements into personal indictments of other people’s character and declare that their political opponents do not just have a different point of view, are not just wrong, are not even just evil, but are wilfully, gleefully, deliberately evil. Rant fundie, rant! ---
**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/50 "2011-08-14T14:19:50Z")
If one is gonna be evil, willfully & gleefully & deliberately is the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![ExVoxMachina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@ExVoxMachina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExVoxMachina)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/51 "2011-08-14T14:31:09Z")
> [@groo](#): > > They don’t merely hate us – they have contempt for our very existence. We are being victimized by them. They want to destroy our way of life, and it’s not just that – they want to destroy it forever. Any hopes we have, for our children, our country, the Earth – they want to destroy all of that. They’re not like us – they’re not valid citizens, they have no conscience, and they’re really so alien that the world would be better off without them. Anything you think is good, they’re against that. They don’t value the same things we value; if left unchecked, everything – EVERYTHING will be gone, and there will be no hope. No hope for us, for our children, forever. Even when they sound like they might agree with us on some minor thing, it’s really part of their longer term agenda to weaken all that is good and usher in a new way of life that is disgraceful, unlawful and will bring ruin on us and our civilization. Sure, freedom of speech is one thing, but really, when people have such vile and destructive ideas, the ideas themselves hurt our civilization, and this is a case in which removing the contagion of those ideas is probably justified. > > I’m embarrassed (for us) that I have to add: this post may have some sarcastic content. Sounds like something _they_ would say. We’re watching you OP. ---
**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/52 "2011-08-14T14:42:07Z")
You’ve described the evil ways of the Cheesehead Packer fans. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/53 "2011-08-14T15:11:23Z")
> [@groo](#): > > They don’t merely hate us – they have contempt for our very existence. We are being victimized by them. They want to destroy our way of life, and it’s not just that – they want to destroy it forever. Any hopes we have, for our children, our country, the Earth – they want to destroy all of that. They’re not like us – they’re not valid citizens, they have no conscience, and they’re really so alien that the world would be better off without them. Anything you think is good, they’re against that. They don’t value the same things we value; if left unchecked, everything – EVERYTHING will be gone, and there will be no hope. No hope for us, for our children, forever. Even when they sound like they might agree with us on some minor thing, it’s really part of their longer term agenda to weaken all that is good and usher in a new way of life that is disgraceful, unlawful and will bring ruin on us and our civilization. Sure, freedom of speech is one thing, but really, when people have such vile and destructive ideas, the ideas themselves hurt our civilization, and this is a case in which removing the contagion of those ideas is probably justified. > > I’m embarrassed (for us) that I have to add: this post may have some sarcastic content. I don’t like the Republicans either. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/54 "2011-08-14T15:37:13Z")
I wonder if the Neanderthals felt this way about modern humans. I wonder if the Yahi Indians felt this way about European Settlers. ---
**Author:** ![brittekland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@brittekland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brittekland)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/55 "2011-08-14T15:43:15Z")
Theme song for this thread: \*\*[Us and Them](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wYMb4e1zwg) \*\* (Waters, Wright) Us, and them And after all we’re only ordinary men. Me, and you. God only knows it’s noz what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear and the front rank died. And the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side. Black and blue And who knows which is which and who is who. Up and down. But in the end it’s only round and round. Haven’t you heard it’s a battle of words The poster bearer cried. Listen son, said the man with the gun There’s room for you inside. “I mean, they’re not gunna kill ya, so if you give 'em a quick short, sharp, shock, they won’t do it again. Dig it? I mean he get off lightly, 'cos I would’ve given him a thrashing - I only hit him once! It was only a difference of opinion, but really…I mean good manners don’t cost nothing do they, eh?” Down and out It can’t be helped but there’s a lot of it about. With, without. And who’ll deny it’s what the fighting’s all about? Out of the way, it’s a busy day I’ve got things on my mind. For the want of the price of tea and a slice The old man died. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/56 "2011-08-14T15:57:53Z")
See? You’re completely fucking wrong. It is this song, not that one. It’s only water In a stranger’s tear Looks are deceptive But distinctions are clear A foreign body And a foreign mind Never welcome In the land of the blind You may look like we do Talk like we do But you know how it is You’re not one of us Not one of us No you’re not one of us Not one of us Not one of us No you’re not one of us ---
**Author:** ![brittekland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@brittekland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brittekland)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/57 "2011-08-14T16:21:22Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > See? You’re completely fucking wrong. It is this song, not that one. Oy, my bad… how could I? :smack: Me a long time PG fan - [“Not One of Us”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt2b23qLN-Q&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/58 "2011-08-14T16:42:10Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > Probably Canadians. People who don’t tip? Joe ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/59 "2011-08-14T16:50:24Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > It’s about those people who crack their three minute egg on the right side of the egg. The correct method is to crack the left side of the egg. \ You’re a Big-Endian, aren’t you? \*\*AREN’T \*\*you? \ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594/60 "2011-08-14T17:19:41Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > This is a parody of what? I don’t get it. [Eliminationism.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliminationism) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/theyre-very-bad-people/592594.md?page=4)