# Thin Lizzy, seriously, look it up!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 18, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534 "2005-08-18T03:18:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/21 "2005-08-18T14:01:35Z")

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You have to admit, _ **Xploder and the Spasming Assholes** _ has a ring to it…

Dardanelle in Yell County was where Mattie Ross hailed from in “True Grit”. Maybe that’s why the disclaimer about country comes from.

You know how I know that?? I Googled it. I guess I could have started a GQ thread…

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/22 "2005-08-18T14:03:28Z")

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> [@vetbridge](#):
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> In situations such as this, I apply the Roland Test. Is the poster in question worse than Roland? If not, meh. 😉

Just so we are clear, I am talking about **Roland Deschain** , the male nurse who discussed in detail the shortcomings of anal sex with his wife. You know, him.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/23 "2005-08-18T14:14:11Z")

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Yeah, I think I’ve bitched elsewhere here about Mattie being from Dar-dan-elle in Yell Coun-ty, when locals sound more like “Darnell in Yell Counny”. I grew up in Dardanelle. And, yeah, I have an accent, but I play power pop, not the least bit country.

BTW, Charles Portis, who wrote _True Grit_, was a good friend of my Dad’s from college. They both were older students who had been in the military and wrote with various school publications, so I think they had a bond there. I met him once at Arthur’s BBQ in Pine Bluff (This was probably right around the time of True Grit being made into a movie). I was a very small Arky, so I can’t tell you anything other than he wore a crew cut and horn-rimmed glasses, and him and my dad laughed a lot.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/24 "2005-08-18T14:17:10Z")

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> [@vetbridge](#):
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> Just so we are clear, I am talking about **Roland Deschain** , the male nurse who discussed in detail the shortcomings of anal sex with his wife. You know, him.

My favorite was the innocent wondering if it would be OK for him to shoot the security guard at Wal-Mart. No, I tell a lie - it was the one wondering if you try to save your kid from a burning car or just shoot the little bastard. No, it was the one… Well, I give up. There are just so many good ones to choose from.

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/25 "2005-08-18T14:36:34Z")

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My favorite was “My wife wants to go to a “swing club”. What can I expect?”. I believe that was the thread where he started to come apart.

> **[My wife wants to go to a "swing club". What can I expect?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296671)**
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> We used to talk about doing this years ago, but never did. However, she has several friends from her nursing class who have made her interested in going. I have expressed fantasies about her having sex with other men, but fantasies and reality are...

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/26 "2005-08-18T14:40:53Z")

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> [@An Arky](#):
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> Yeah, I think I’ve bitched elsewhere here about Mattie being from Dar-dan-elle in Yell Coun-ty, when locals sound more like “Darnell in Yell Counny”. I grew up in Dardanelle. And, yeah, I have an accent, but I play power pop, not the least bit country.

Since Thin Lizzy doesn’t matter much to me, I’ll hijack on and say that around Dardanelle on I-40 is about the most scenic part IMHO. You can catch a glimpse of the lake there, and there is a scenic overlook I’m going to stop at one of these trips…

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/27 "2005-08-18T14:49:53Z")

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> [@Scarlett67](#):
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> Yes, but is it really so much to ask that people Google first to at least get an idea of the basics?

No. Is it so much to ask that you don’t complain about questions no-one’s forcing you to answer?

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**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/28 "2005-08-18T14:59:07Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> No. Is it so much to ask that you don’t complain about questions no-one’s forcing you to answer?

I’m not complaining about the question – I’m complaining about the lack of initiative and self-sufficiency. At some point everybody has to learn to tie their own shoes instead of having Mommy do it for them all their life.

I’m constantly amazed that on a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, people are opposed to the use of basic reference materials. Jesus, at least give it a shot yourself before you come running to the board to make people look it up for you.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/29 "2005-08-18T15:09:30Z")

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> [@vetbridge](#):
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> My favorite was “My wife wants to go to a “swing club”. What can I expect?”. I believe that was the thread where he started to come apart.
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296671](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296671)

In order to come apart, one would have to be all together beforehand.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/30 "2005-08-18T15:09:22Z")

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> [@Duke of Rat](#):
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> Since Thin Lizzy doesn’t matter much to me, I’ll hijack on and say that around Dardanelle on I-40 is about the most scenic part IMHO. You can catch a glimpse of the lake there, and there is a scenic overlook I’m going to stop at one of these trips…

Yeah, it’s pretty on Lake Dardanelle, looking west at the sunset over the mountains. The prominent flat-topped mountain is Mt. Nebo. It has a state park with campground and cabins, along with some private residences. The views from Sunrise and Sunset Points are great. Where you’re talking about is probably near Russellville, possibly London. Dardanelle, the town, is at the dam end of Lake Dardanelle, on the river. It’s about 5 mi. S. of Russellvile.

Sorry for the hijack…Thin Lizzy must be dressed to kill, down at Dino’s Bar & Grill.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/31 "2005-08-18T15:43:39Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> No. Is it so much to ask that you don’t complain about questions no-one’s forcing you to answer?

Yes, because **Thin Lizzy’s** crap clutters up the front page of GQ and drives what may be more interesting questions off the front page.

It might also be noted that what Thin Lizzy is doing is explicitly against GQ guidelines.

[From the very first sticky in GQ:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=149223)

> [@Arnold Winkelried](#):
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> I’d like to ask the members’ cooperation in keeping General Questions the best place on the Internet for finding information. You can help by doing several things to reduce board traffic.
> 
> 1. Before opening a new thread, search the archives! There are thousands of threads in GQ (searchable here), and over 2,000 questions (with answers) in the archives of Cecil’s columns and Staff Reports (searchable here). Many threads in GQ never need to have been opened, and the OP could have received a complete answer more quickly by spending a little time in the archives. Remember to reset the “search by date” indicator to “any date” before you check the board archives. Many questions can also be answered using the helpful reference links included below.
> 
> 2. Please take some time to consider if your proposed thread is really a General Question. There are two categories here. Many threads are really seeking opinions (IMHO is the place), are seeking to advocate a position (Great Debates), or pertain to arts and culture (Cafe Society).\*\* Perhaps more importantly, many queries can be solved with a simple web search. Please do not clog General Questions with simple definition/pronunciation questions, “where can I find this product” questions or similar things until you have run a search through [google.com](http://google.com) or another quality search engine. \*\*

Bolding mine.

Personally, I don’t mind if a newbie asks an occasional simple question that’s easily Googled, as long as they eventually figure out how to find things for themselves. And it’s fine if someone has looked for information themselves, and wishes to have some more extended discussion. But what **Lizzy** is doing shows that he either hasn’t read _any_ of the stickies in GQ, or has chosen to ignore them.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/32 "2005-08-18T15:43:41Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> No. Is it so much to ask that you don’t complain about questions no-one’s forcing you to answer?

No one’s forcing me to answer them, or even read them – but a slew of asinine questions that are easily googled take up a lot of space on the first page.

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**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/33 "2005-08-18T15:47:39Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> As I said before, I don’t really support the “Google is your friend” sentiment as it usually is applied. A lot of times, the answer I look for when I post in GQ is more than just a stream of facts that I could get from Google, I’m looking for a way to understand those facts, and make them fit in my head.
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> That being said, there are indeed some questions that could just be googled. And it seems to me that the occasionaly “Googleable” question will escape notice or scorn, but when a person starts 80+ threads in GQ in less than a month, they’re going to be scorned for not doing at least a little footwork themselves, and instead just spewing every random question that occurs to them onto the board. Seriously - we’re talking about a poster who started a dozen threads in GQ in a few hours of one day.

True, this does sound excessive. However, pit threads such as this are the reason I have never (at least not that I remember) started a thread in GQ. I read them, find out some interesting things, and leave. It’s not that I’m scared to post one. I just don’t want to go through the hassle of posting a question about something I’m truly interested in knowing about and discussing with the largest group of the smartest people I know, only to have to defend myself in the pit about why I would dare do such a stupid thing. (I’m not trying to yell at you here, **TellMeI’mNotCrazy** , you’ve already said you generally don’t support when people say “Google is your friend.”)

And another thing (again, not directed at you, **TellMeI’mNotCrazy** ), I think Google fucking sucks. I’ve googled many a thing to come up with jack shit.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/34 "2005-08-18T15:55:43Z")

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> [@vetbridge](#):
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> In situations such as this, I apply the Roland Test. Is the poster in question worse than Roland? If not, meh. 😉

You’re setting a pretty low standard there.

And actually, almost none of **Roland’s** questions could have been answered by Googling. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/35 "2005-08-18T15:59:03Z")

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> [@yellowval](#):
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> I think Google fucking sucks. I’ve googled many a thing to come up with jack shit.

Perhaps you’d have better success if you learned not to put [“jack shit”](http://www.google.com/search?hs=km6&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22many+a+thing%22+%22jack+shit%22&btnG=Search) into your search string?  
The ability to use a search engine effectively is an acquired skill. If you don’t practice it, you don’t learn it.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/36 "2005-08-18T15:59:51Z")

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> [@yellowval](#):
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> I just don’t want to go through the hassle of posting a question about something I’m truly interested in knowing about and discussing with the largest group of the smartest people I know, only to have to defend myself in the pit about why I would dare do such a stupid thing.

Would you care to mention someone else who you have seen pitted about asking simple questions in GQ? This seems exceptionally paranoid to me.

> [@](#):
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> And another thing (again, not directed at you, **TellMeI’mNotCrazy** ), I think Google fucking sucks. I’ve googled many a thing to come up with jack shit.

That’s the time to ask in GQ, while mentioning that you’ve already tried finding information yourself.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/37 "2005-08-18T16:07:08Z")

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Speaking of paranoia – I saw **Colibri** ’s name as the last poster, and assumed it was to say “talk about people who should look stuff up instead of asking in GQ, what’s with **twickster** and her stupid questions about birds?” 😉

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/38 "2005-08-18T16:13:35Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Speaking of paranoia – I saw **Colibri** ’s name as the last poster, and assumed it was to say “talk about people who should look stuff up instead of asking in GQ, what’s with **twickster** and her stupid questions about birds?” 😉

Frankly, if you’ve done that, I’ve forgotten it. I would probably remember if you did it 20 times a day, though. 😉

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/39 "2005-08-18T16:14:53Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> It might also be noted that what Thin Lizzy is doing is explicitly against GQ guidelines.

Well, that settles it. I retract what I said. Apologies.

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**Author:** ![Meaty\_Beaty\_Big\_and\_Bouncy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Meaty\_Beaty\_Big\_and\_Bouncy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meaty_Beaty_Big_and_Bouncy)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thin-lizzy-seriously-look-it-up/317534/40 "2005-08-18T16:26:19Z")

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Hell, I figured **Thin Lizzy** was a summer school class with an inattentive teacher.

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