# Things I find rude and will make me look down on you **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 11, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849 "2013-01-11T12:15:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/262 "2013-01-17T07:16:09Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > You touch me? You get the hat pin, grandma taught me well. (I don’t really have a hat pin). So, the only subway I’ve been on was in DC, and it wasn’t so crowded that people were squishing up against your bod. I only know from that experience so don’t know at all what it would be like (except maybe the state fair…ugh). > > Where are you that it’s that bad? And how do you avoid having others touching you, or can you? Sounds like hell on earth. Manhattan. There is [no](http://beehivehairdresser.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/crowded-subway.jpg) [personal](http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=http3A2F2Fwww.newsvine.com2F_vine2Fimages2Fusers2Fjonwoods2F4590948.jpg&width=900) [space](http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/crowdedtrain.jpg) on a crowded rush hour train. You are squished so close to people that I feel they should at least buy you a drink first. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/263 "2013-01-17T07:51:51Z")
> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#): > > self-centred fuckspackles, Fuckspackles. I like that – can I steal it? ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/264 "2013-01-17T07:52:00Z")
> [@mutex](#): > > I just discovered this place…looks pretty cool. AND i get to complain about these annoying people that surround me? Nice. > > I work at a state university. So many things to choose… All excellent, mutex. And welcome! ---
**Author:** ![MizGrand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@MizGrand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MizGrand)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/265 "2013-01-17T10:23:58Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Huh? i think walking around on bare feet is disgusting and look down on people who do that. The floor is disgusting, the shoes are there to protect me from it. I was told by carpet installer that going barefoot places body oils & sweat on carpeting. Creates stains that are difficult to remove since the oil attracts dirt. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/266 "2013-01-17T11:56:43Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > You touch me? You get the hat pin, grandma taught me well. (I don’t really have a hat pin). So, the only subway I’ve been on was in DC, and it wasn’t so crowded that people were squishing up against your bod. I only know from that experience so don’t know at all what it would be like (except maybe the state fair…ugh). > > Where are you that it’s that bad? And how do you avoid having others touching you, or can you? Sounds like hell on earth. London at rush hour and any time of day on some of the lines. Also Barcelona, Rome, Berlin. I think most underground trains are packed at rush hour. ---
**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/267 "2013-01-17T12:12:10Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > London at rush hour and any time of day on some of the lines. Also Barcelona, Rome, Berlin. I think most underground trains are packed at rush hour. A little [photographic evidence](http://www.londonnomad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Overcrowded-London-Tube.jpg) of the London Underground probably wouldn’t go amiss. Not my photo, but definitely my experience. What’s especially gorgeous is being 6’ 4" and caught at the outer edges near the doors. In which case I have to bend over in order to fit in with the curvature of the carriage. This **will** force my head into the face / cleavage / lunch / backpack (delete as appropriate) of my fellow passengers; not a pleasurable experience for anyone involved despite how that might sound to some :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/268 "2013-01-17T14:13:49Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > All excellent, mutex. And welcome! Indeed. Good ranting, and welcome! 🙂 As for taking your shoes off in the house, you can search on the five thousand threads we’ve already done on the subject if you want to. I don’t think I’ll bother telling you once again that it is cultural in Canada, and then listen to all the US Americans lose their shit because no one tells them to take off their shoes in the house! It’s their God-given right! Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/269 "2013-01-17T19:32:09Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So what if they take off shoes and leave socks on? Is that objection-worthy? Because that’s what I was envisioning in your last post. At least there I could see there being something about smelly feet or whatever. Shoes off, socks on, is fine. And of course they can do whatever the fuck they want in my house. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/270 "2013-01-17T22:47:19Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > C’mon **Skald** , there’s gotta be a story there, and I wanna hear it! (is it anything like forgetting a pair of panties? :p) My sister came to my apartment for Sunday dinner. Took off her shoes, as she tends to do. She’s kind of … dotty … in some ways; not stupid, but overly focused. When she left the apartment she forgot her shoes. Evidently she didn’t notice she was unshod till in her car, where she put on the extra shoes she keeps there for JUST SUCH OCCASIONS. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/271 "2013-01-17T23:00:44Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > …Where are you that it’s that bad? … Sometimes on Montreal metros (subways) and buses, it’s so crowded that I don’t even need to hold onto a pole - there are so many people crammed in that I can stay upright because people are pushed up against me on all sides. Did I just supply nightmare material for you, **CanvasShoes**? 😛 It’s a fact of life that Montreal transit users have come to accept. For what it’s worth, though, I usually try to avoid travelling at rush hours and/or try to choose less crowded subway cars. ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/272 "2013-01-17T23:32:42Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > My sister came to my apartment for Sunday dinner. Took off her shoes, as she tends to do. She’s kind of … dotty … in some ways; not stupid, but overly focused. When she left the apartment she forgot her shoes. Evidently she didn’t notice she was unshod till in her car, where she put on the extra shoes she keeps there for JUST SUCH OCCASIONS. That sounds like something I might do :smack: I hate wearing shoes & I prefer to be barefoot. I tend to have extras in the car because I’ll wear 'em to the store or something, then kick them off on the drive home and walk in the house barefoot. I do wear them in public, and I take note of whether hosts are shoes on or off in their own houses and follow suit. In my house I couldn’t care less if you wear something on your feet or not. Be comfortable. I don’t find feet gross, and I don’t find plain grass and dirt gross but city streets and places of mass humanity certainly. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/273 "2013-01-18T06:54:08Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > Sometimes on Montreal metros (subways) and buses, it’s so crowded that I don’t even need to hold onto a pole - there are so many people crammed in that I can stay upright because people are pushed up against me on all sides. Did I just supply nightmare material for you, **CanvasShoes**? 😛 > > It’s a fact of life that Montreal transit users have come to accept. For what it’s worth, though, I usually try to avoid travelling at rush hours and/or try to choose less crowded subway cars. Yes, you did, that sounds horrible! So did **Nava’s** post…argh. 🙂 If I’d been raised someplace where that was the norm, it might not bother me. I don’t blame **Nava’s** dad either, sheesh, I’ll sometimes pay the extra 50 cents and go to the first station downtown just so I can get a seat and avoid the afternoon crush going home on the light rail. Or if I see a crowded train pull in, I’ll just wait for the next one. Ugh. And on game nights when there are a gazillion insane drunken Seahawks fans? Luckily the morning commute isn’t bad because I live near one of the first stations on the line. (Oh lord, I just looked at the pictures in **EoD’s** post, shudder and I’m so sorry for you people who have to deal with that.) My only experience with NYC subways is the scene in the movie “Adventures in Babysitting” (or was that Chicago?). ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/274 "2013-01-19T21:21:03Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I was raised by Tea Party types-- rich right-wing WASPs. So it ain’t easy to NOT judge everyone I see. > > But I’m trying, and you know what? The less I think about what other people are doing in restaurants, at the library, or on public transportation, the more content I am. Want to become even more content? Stop stereotyping people. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/275 "2013-01-19T23:31:38Z")
Presumably one can know one’s own family well enough that a statement like that might be a description rather than a stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/276 "2013-01-20T02:41:53Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Presumably one can know one’s own family well enough that a statement like that might be a description rather than a stereotype. It’s clearly both: digs (the poster) is describing his family, and he’s using stereotyping to do so. What’s ironic is that, in doing so, he is showing himself to be just as judgmental as he claims those who raised him are. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/277 "2013-01-20T13:04:19Z")
So there’s no legitimate way of describing a type of family without it being a stereotype? ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/278 "2013-01-20T17:54:08Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > So there’s no legitimate way of describing a type of family without it being a stereotype? Of course there are, and I never said or even implied that there aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/279 "2013-01-20T17:58:22Z")
> [@gms453](#): > > Of course there are, and I never said or even implied that there aren’t. So there are no families of the type described by digs? ---
**Author:** ![gms453](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@gms453](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gms453)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/280 "2013-01-20T18:37:03Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > So there are no families of the type described by digs? Whether there are or not has nothing to do with his use of stereotyping in describing his family. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/281 "2013-01-20T20:22:46Z")
I would recommend explaining yourself more fully. As it stands I see nothing wrong with what Digs said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849.md?page=15)