# Things I find rude and will make me look down on you **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 11, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849 "2013-01-11T12:15:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/41 "2013-01-12T00:06:23Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Just as an interesting anecdotal update: just about two hours ago I encountered a young man pissing in the handicapped stall at the gym (of course while everything else was free). His reasoning for using the stall?? Well, he told me that he really had a problem with “child molesters and pedophiles looking at his junk”, so he had to use the handicapped stall. > What the motherfuck?! :dubious: > Needless to say, I told him I had no sympathy for his plight and asked him (however pointlessly) to please refrain from doing this in the future. I know this is going to be a hijack but here goes. I’d often wondered about the correctnass of using the “handicapped” stall in public restrooms. Some years back, I listened to an interview with an ADA advocate, who said it was OK to use the handicapped stall as long as one didn’t cut in front of an actual handicapped person in order to do so. I have used the HC stall in the ladies room quite a few times since hearing that. Since I figure Actual Handicapped People a: aren’t really a dime a dozen and b: Are people who can presumably wait a couple of minutes, should I inadvertently enter the HC stall in the presence of an Actually Handicapped Person. (Note that I have never, ever, EVER pulled into a HC parking space except for the few times I’ve been chauffering an Actual Handicapped Person, with plates to prove it.) ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/42 "2013-01-12T00:15:36Z")
I think **Ambivalid** was mostly concerned that all the other places to pee were vacant. I hope you don’t use that stall if all the others are empty! And **Ambi** you should have told that fellow that he needen’t worry about folks looking at his junk since it was way too little to be of interest to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/43 "2013-01-12T00:24:08Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > It also bothers me when it’s raining or snowing, and I’m sitting in a forward-facing seat, and the person in front of me takes off their wet hood so that the hood spills over the back of their seat and drips all over my bag and hands. Annoying! Related to this one - at the airport terminal, when the seat backs are pressed together for seats facing away from one another, and someone who feels like they just hiked up Everest feels the needs to throw themselves into the seat right behind you and practically throw you forward out of your seat. Sometimes it seems that you almost knock heads with them. Please people, be aware of what you are doing! ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/44 "2013-01-12T00:41:18Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > I know this is going to be a hijack but here goes. > I’d often wondered about the correctnass of using the “handicapped” stall in public restrooms. Some years back, I listened to an interview with an ADA advocate, who said it was OK to use the handicapped stall as long as one didn’t cut in front of an actual handicapped person in order to do so. > > I have used the HC stall in the ladies room quite a few times since hearing that. Since I figure Actual Handicapped People a: aren’t really a dime a dozen and b: Are people who can presumably wait a couple of minutes, should I inadvertently enter the HC stall in the presence of an Actually Handicapped Person. > > (Note that I have never, ever, EVER pulled into a HC parking space except for the few times I’ve been chauffering an Actual Handicapped Person, with plates to prove it.) No, this is wrong. That ADA person was a schmuck. If the only time people didn’t use handicap stalls was when a handicap person was _right there behind them_ then no disabled person would ever have “first dibs” on the handicapped stall (or at least very, very rarely). Every-single-time I’ve had to wait for someone using the stall totally unnecessarily, that person entered the stall when no handicap person was “waiting behind them”. Secondly, to your point about disabled people being able to wait a few minutes just like everyone else: OF COURSE! _Just like everyone else!_ But not when every single other toilet is free and my bladder is about to explode (or Im about to shit myself) and I’m staring at empty toilets in desperate anguish while some asshole spreads out the NY Times while he takes a shit. The handicapped stalls are “stalls of necessity”. For everyone; disabled and able-bodied. The disabled need the stalls for every bathroom trip. The able bodied need the stalls when every other option is occupied. It’s pretty simple. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/45 "2013-01-12T00:44:24Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > I think **Ambivalid** was mostly concerned that all the other places to pee were vacant. I hope you don’t use that stall if all the others are empty! > > And **Ambi** you should have told that fellow that he needen’t worry about folks looking at his junk since it was way too little to be of interest to anyone. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/46 "2013-01-12T00:55:45Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > No, this is wrong. That ADA person was a schmuck. If the only time people didn’t use handicap stalls was when a handicap person was _right there behind them_ then no disabled person would ever have “first dibs” on the handicapped stall (or at least very, very rarely). Every-single-time I’ve had to wait for someone using the stall totally unnecessarily, that person entered the stall when no handicap person was “waiting behind them”. > > Secondly, to your point about disabled people being able to wait a few minutes just like everyone else: OF COURSE! _Just like everyone else!_ But not when every single other toilet is free and my bladder is about to explode (or Im about to shit myself) and I’m staring at empty toilets in desperate anguish while some asshole spreads out the NY Times while he takes a shit. > > The handicapped stalls are “stalls of necessity”. For everyone; disabled and able-bodied. The disabled need the stalls for every bathroom trip. The able bodied need the stalls when every other option is occupied. It’s pretty simple. I dunno - I’m post menonpausal and from what I read, (and from my own experience) when post meno women need to go, they need to Go, NOW. More directly: when I need to go, I seriously need to go. Plus the disabled shitters are not only almost unoccupied, they are usually clean. Mainly because they don’t get used much. 🙂 I _knew_ this was a mistake to bring this up :smack:. So I will make a pledge right now this minute that unless my bladder is bursting or I am having some sort of uncontrollable gastro-intestinal event, I will avoid disabled stalls, ADA spokespersons be damned, because they are all wrong and you are right. ---
**Author:** ![scratch\_llll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@scratch\_llll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch_llll)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/47 "2013-01-12T01:54:58Z")
I hate people who congregate in a tight group in narrow store isles so that the only way to get past is to act like a bowling ball or back up and go to another isle. I also hate groups that take up the whole sidewalk so you have to scuff your feet, bend your head, make horns of index fingers, and charge snorting at them until they give you room. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/48 "2013-01-12T02:17:01Z")
> [@RobDog](#): > > I’m annoyed by people who judge people who judge others. I judge people who judge people who judge others. > > I think? I was raised by Tea Party types-- rich right-wing WASPs. So it ain’t easy to NOT judge everyone I see. But I’m trying, and you know what? The less I think about what other people are doing in restaurants, at the library, or on public transportation, the more content I am. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/49 "2013-01-12T02:21:14Z")
[_crosses his legs_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=674824) ---
**Author:** ![Sevencl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sevencl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevencl)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/50 "2013-01-12T02:32:36Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Just as an interesting anecdotal update: just about two hours ago I encountered a young man pissing in the handicapped stall at the gym (of course while everything else was free). His reasoning for using the stall?? Well, he told me that he really had a problem with “child molesters and pedophiles looking at his junk”, so he had to use the handicapped stall. Was it the ONLY stall? Otherwise I don’t get why he’d say that. Or does the handicapped stall not have holes drilled in it, or something? ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/51 "2013-01-12T02:41:16Z")
> [@scratch\_llll](#): > > I hate people who congregate in a tight group in narrow store isles so that the only way to get past is to act like a bowling ball or back up and go to another isle. I also hate groups that take up the whole sidewalk so you have to scuff your feet, bend your head, make horns of index fingers, and charge snorting at them until they give you room. The simple phrase “Excuse me, please,” will get you out of this difficulty in an instant. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/52 "2013-01-12T03:16:34Z")
> [@Virgil\_Tibbs](#): > > I also judge people who wear shoes inside homes. It’s disgusting. Huh? i think walking around on bare feet is disgusting and look down on people who do that. The floor is disgusting, the shoes are there to protect me from it. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/53 "2013-01-12T05:28:45Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > I dunno - I’m post menonpausal and from what I read, (and from my own experience) when post meno women need to go, they need to Go, NOW. More directly: when I need to go, I seriously need to go. Plus the disabled shitters are not only almost unoccupied, they are usually clean. Mainly because they don’t get used much. 🙂 > > I _knew_ this was a mistake to bring this up :smack:. So I will make a pledge right now this minute that unless my bladder is bursting or I am having some sort of uncontrollable gastro-intestinal event, I will avoid disabled stalls, ADA spokespersons be damned, because they are all wrong and you are right. Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just want to get snarky? “I’m post menonpausal and from what I read, (and from my own experience) when post meno women need to go, they need to Go, NOW” This quote of yours implies that all the other stalls are occupied and you need to go. By all means, use the handicap stall in this instance. It’s needed. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/54 "2013-01-12T05:30:01Z")
> [@Sevencl](#): > > Was it the ONLY stall? Otherwise I don’t get why he’d say that. Or does the handicapped stall not have holes drilled in it, or something? Nope, there were two other non-handicapped stalls available. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/55 "2013-01-12T08:28:35Z")
> [@chiroptera](#): > > I dunno - I’m post menonpausal and from what I read, (and from my own experience) when post meno women need to go, they need to Go, NOW. Reread **Ambivalid** ’s last paragraph (italics mine): > [@Ambivalid](#): > > The handicapped stalls are "_stalls of necessity". For everyone_; disabled and able-bodied. The disabled need the stalls for every bathroom trip. The able bodied need the stalls when every other option is occupied. It’s pretty simple. He’s asking able-bodied people to use the handicapped stall only when there are no regular stalls available and no handicapped people in the queue. he’s not asking able-bodied people to never, ever, ever use the handicapped stall. You two actually agree. ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/56 "2013-01-12T08:41:10Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Do you disagree with what I said? Or do you just want to get snarky? “I’m post menonpausal and from what I read, (and from my own experience) when post meno women need to go, they need to Go, NOW” This quote of yours implies that all the other stalls are occupied and you need to go. By all means, use the handicap stall in this instance. It’s needed. Sorry - that came off as snarky but I do agree with you, as **Nava** said. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/57 "2013-01-12T09:05:26Z")
Now kiss and make up! ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/58 "2013-01-12T11:49:06Z")
Can’t. There’s no kissing smiley! :\* (\<\ **Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/59 "2013-01-12T13:09:34Z") People who get off an escalator and just stand there, then glare at the people who have no choice but to slam into them. Supermarket cashiers who satisfy their “personal itches,” including the ones under their hairpieces . . . then handle my food. And of course, people who don’t wash their hands in a public restroom, regardless of what they may or may not have touched. People who leave their shopping cart in the middle of the aisle, then their bodies taking up the rest of the aisle’s width . . . or they leave the cart blocking the aisle, while they’re somewhere else. There’s roadwork being done, so that lane is terminated. Everyone is lined up in the free lane, waiting to get through . . . and there’s always some jackass in the terminated lane, driving way up ahead to where it’s terminated, then pushing their way into the head of the line. Drivers who don’t use their turning signals. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849/60 "2013-01-12T14:44:41Z")
People blocking the aisles in grocery and other retail stores. Where I shop for groceries it’s common for whole families to be shopping together. One of them stops to look at something and the rest just stop where they are with no concern for others trying to pass. People at fast food restaraunts or (other places you queue up at a counter) that stand in such a way as to make it ambiguous as to whether they are in line or just reading the menu, waiting for someone or whatever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-find-rude-and-will-make-me-look-down-on-you/646849.md?page=4)