# Things I Learned Today from Watching Fox News

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278 "2006-10-04T17:07:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/1 "2006-10-04T17:07:30Z")

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First, I learned that Rep. Mark Foley is actually a Democrat.

> **[INCREDIBLE! FOX 'NEWS' LABELS FOLEY AS DEM DURING O'REILLY FACTOR!](https://www.bradblog.com/?p=3570)**
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> Three Different Video Cutaways, 15 Seconds or More Each, Credit Disgraced REPUBLICAN Congressman as Being a Florida DEMOCRAT! | UPDATED: NOW WITH VIDEO! LATER UPDATE: 'Erroneous' Caption Scrubbed from Late-night O'Reilly Rebroadcasts Without...

Next, I learned that Monica Lewinsky was only 19 when President Clinton “forced” himself on her.

> **[Extreme Right Winger Blames Predatorgate On Clenis](https://crooksandliars.com/2006/10/03/extreme-right-winger-blames-predatorgate-on-clenis)**
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> When in doubt just blame Bill Clinton. That's Hannity's take on Predatorgate. However, Old33 catches him in a most basic lie,
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> he said that M

New slogan for Fox News. “_Taking 10 points off the IQ of the regular viewer_.”

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/2 "2006-10-04T17:15:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Frostillicus]  
First, I learned that Rep. Mark Foley is actually a Democrat.  
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Of course he is. Do you honestly think a Republican would act in a sexually inappropriate manner?

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/3 "2006-10-04T18:18:13Z")

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> [@bradblog](#):
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> Fox “News” scrubbed the “error”

First of all, error my ass.

It’s been a while since I’ve posted in anything even remotely political and there is a reason for that (which I’m not getting into). I was reading one of the Mark Foley threads yesterday and thought to myself, “gee I wonder how long it’ll be before someone labels him as a democrat.” I was gonna post that but I thought, “nah, that’s just silly. People will laugh at me for even thinking it.”

I just get so angry even thinking that there are people that even watch that horseshit station and the fact that this wont’ even remotely affect the ratings is just sad.

There are only two reasons this could happen…

1. the obvious reason, deceit. Deceit isn’t right but I’m tired.

2)incompetance. This shows up on the preview screen before it ever goes to air so the director, AD, Switcher, Producer, and everyone else in the goddamn studio all have a chance to see it before it goes to air. You hit ONE button and it’s no longer there and it’s also very easy to edit them. The fact that it’s on the air three times is just flat out stupidity - or you know, intentional.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/4 "2006-10-04T19:04:01Z")

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No doubt they simply assumed that a pervert who blames his actions on everything under the sun other than himself must be a Democrat. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/5 "2006-10-06T22:53:16Z")

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Even though the president himself called Foley’s behavior “disgusting,” there are still pundits out there who say the whole thing is no big deal. I suppose they’re thinking, “It’s not like he asked those boys to **marry** him.”

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/6 "2006-10-06T23:24:39Z")

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Any word on whether Fox ever made a retraction on the “Foley (D-Fla)” goof?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/7 "2006-10-07T01:39:43Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
Any word on whether Fox ever made a retraction on the “Foley (D-Fla)” goof?  
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An optimist, eh?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/8 "2006-10-07T01:40:44Z")

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To expand on that, they never even changed the tag when they re-aired the show. It went from “D-FL” to simply blank. They never made it “R-FL”…just buried it down the memory hole.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/9 "2006-10-07T01:45:12Z")

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What About HAnnity’s remark about Clinton commuting the sentence of Mel Reynolds?  
Does anybody remember anything about that? I don’t. Was he accurate in that?

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/10 "2006-10-07T01:47:50Z")

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Oh…and they don’t give a crap about how obvious the lie or “mistake” is. I’m sure they feel it’s completely worth it to confuse the issue. They can claim it’s “just a mistake” but the damage is done. Some people will see it and believe it without question. What scumbags.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/11 "2006-10-07T01:55:44Z")

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Clinton commuted Reynolds’s bank fraud sentence, not his sentence for sex with a minor.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/12 "2006-10-07T01:58:21Z")

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[Cite](http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_9_99/ai_70696215). He’d already served 2 years of the 2 1/2 year sentence for the underage sex. Clinton commuted his 6 1/2 year sentence for fraud (of which he’d already served two years).

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/13 "2006-10-07T01:59:36Z")

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Fox is Fair and Balanced. They never promised Accurate.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/14 "2006-10-07T02:06:45Z")

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Yeah just looked it up.

> [@](#):
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> January 2001: Just before leaving office, President Clinton (at the urging of Jesse Jackson, among others) commuted the sentence of former Illinois congressman Mel Reynolds, who had spent 30 months in a state prison for having sex with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer and was serving a five-year sentence in federal prison for lying to obtain loans and illegally diverting campaign money for personal use.

He had served his term for having sex with a minor and was serving a term for bank fraud. I can’t be sure but I think that makes Sean Hannity a lieing cocksucker. {seriouosly, didn’t Jon Stewert say Fox news sucks GOP dick} Did Colmes sit there unable to correct him as usual?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/15 "2006-10-07T02:08:10Z")

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[QUOTE=cosmosdan]  
I can’t be sure but I think that makes Sean Hannity a lieing cocksucker. {seriouosly, didn’t Jon Stewert say Fox news sucks GOP dick} Did Colmes sit there unable to correct him as usual?  
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Wait…there’s guy named Colmes on that show?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/16 "2006-10-07T03:15:26Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Wait…there’s guy named Colmes on that show?  
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Rather subjective. If you mean [sub]Colmes[/sub] than yeah, sometimes I could have sworn I’d seen the guy. Now if you mean Colmes as in a “normal sized cohost with equal say”, hell no.

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**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/17 "2006-10-07T06:57:53Z")

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Fair question… Even if the erroneous “reporting” was true, what difference does it make if Monica was 19? I mean, I can understand some people’s outrage (not mine) at an older man with a young woman. To each his own. But what is the problem with 19? She’s a legal adult. To use an old and very rude statement, she’s free, white and 18. What difference does 22 over 19 make?

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/18 "2006-10-07T12:30:33Z")

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[QUOTE=if6was9]  
Fair question… Even if the erroneous “reporting” was true, what difference does it make if Monica was 19? I mean, I can understand some people’s outrage (not mine) at an older man with a young woman. To each his own. But what is the problem with 19? She’s a legal adult. To use an old and very rude statement, she’s free, white and 18. What difference does 22 over 19 make?  
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Not much. The point was that Hannity had to go the extra mile and lie about her age so he could call her a teenager and make the comparision to defend the republicans.  
That’s there defense. It’s just selective morals and a cheap Democrat political ploy. Let’s take the focus off the actual issue. I just hope Oberman or Stewert call him a liar on national TV. Jon should play his clip about Fox sucking GOP dick and use the Hannity clip as an example, then comment “We report you decide”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/19 "2006-10-07T12:49:27Z")

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It’s mere truthiness. We \*know \* Clinton preyed on kids (because nothing a Republican could do could actually be _worse_ than what Clinton did, of course), therefore she was a kid.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-learned-today-from-watching-fox-news/375278/20 "2006-10-07T12:58:15Z")

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So when CNN put a big black X over VP Cheney’s face when he was making a speech, what was that?

How about when an anchor’s mic was left on and we got to hear her dissing her SIL over Pres Bush’s speech?

It’s live TV. Mistakes happen. Get over it.

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