# Things I still don't get ... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 17, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925 "2011-01-17T09:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Indian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@Indian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indian)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/1 "2011-01-17T09:05:57Z")
1. The so called anti-violence theme in “Unforgiven”. 2. The hype around “Fargo”. Your turn now. ---
**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/2 "2011-01-17T09:11:35Z")
Justin Beiber That English prat…wotsisname?..Russell Brand Facebook (yeah, I know…) ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/3 "2011-01-17T09:54:28Z")
> [@indian](#): > > 1. The hype around “Fargo”. Are you sure you know what “hype” means? ---
**Author:** ![Indian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@Indian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indian)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/4 "2011-01-17T10:36:55Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Are you sure you know what “hype” means? Oh! I mean it in the sense of “Exaggerated or extravagant claims” of how great that movie is. Refer [freedictionary.com](http://freedictionary.com). Now let us pardon the my English and move on. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/5 "2011-01-17T10:51:06Z")
Kevin Smith ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/6 "2011-01-17T12:52:27Z")
> [@indian](#): > > I mean it in the sense of “Exaggerated or extravagant claims” of how great that movie is. Refer [freedictionary.com](http://freedictionary.com). Well to quote freedictionary in full “Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material” [my emphasis] There is no “hype” around Fargo. Certainly not now, and indeed even the hype at the time of Fargo’s release was - by Hollywood standards - positively understated. Fargo was and is just extremely well loved by viewers and critics. Extravagant acclaim from viewers and critics is pretty much the polar opposite of extravagant claims in advertising and promotional material. ---
**Author:** ![Indian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@Indian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indian)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/7 "2011-01-17T12:57:11Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Well to quote freedictionary in full “Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material” [my emphasis] > > There is no “hype” around Fargo. Certainly not now, and indeed even the hype at the time of Fargo’s release was - by Hollywood standards - positively understated. Fargo was and is just extremely well loved by viewers and critics. Extravagant acclaim from viewers and critics is pretty much the polar opposite of extravagant claims in advertising and promotional material. Please substitute “hype” with a suitable word,and comment if you have any. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/8 "2011-01-17T13:23:48Z")
I am shocked, SHOCKED to find there is pointless nit-picking happening on teh Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/9 "2011-01-17T21:27:09Z")
OK, try “acclaim”. You don’t get the “acclaim” surrounding Fargo. It’s a film that a very large number of people find funny, touching, highly original and well acted. If you don’t, sucks to be you, I guess. I doubt it’s possible to explain it to you if you don’t get it already. The reason I nitpicked you on it was because I find that sometimes people try to use “hype” (rather than “acclaim” or similar) in inapt circumstances as a perjorative. They want to imply that the acclaim surrounding something is artificial - a creation of marketing people - and don’t want to face the reality, namely that the acclaim is actually as a consequence of popular and critical reaction. It’s hard to admit you don’t get a joke that everyone else is laughing at, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/10 "2011-01-18T00:33:31Z")
Why anybody thinks _The Big Lebowski_ is worth watching. Why _Citizen Kane_ is held up as some sort of masterpiece. Why anybody listens to more than one _Dave Matthews Band_ song. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Woodhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Miss\_Woodhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Woodhouse)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/11 "2011-01-18T00:39:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Why anybody listens to more than one Dave Matthews Band song. But no one actually does. We’re all listening to the same song played over and over with different names. ---
**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/12 "2011-01-18T00:44:48Z")
Buffy the vampire slayer. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/13 "2011-01-18T00:52:22Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Why _Citizen Kane_ is held up as some sort of masterpiece. > . Look at all movies before Citizen Kane. Look at all movies after. Not only is it a masterpiece it was revolutionary. Any movie that is more than a couple years old needs to been seen in context. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/14 "2011-01-18T00:55:48Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > OK, try “acclaim”. You don’t get the “acclaim” surrounding Fargo. It’s a film that a very large number of people find funny, touching, highly original and well acted. If you don’t, sucks to be you, I guess. I doubt it’s possible to explain it to you if you don’t get it already. > > The reason I nitpicked you on it was because I find that sometimes people try to use “hype” (rather than “acclaim” or similar) in inapt circumstances as a perjorative. They want to imply that the acclaim surrounding something is artificial - a creation of marketing people - and don’t want to face the reality, namely that the acclaim is actually as a consequence of popular and critical reaction. It’s hard to admit you don’t get a joke that everyone else is laughing at, I guess. I think that is a valid nitpick. However, once the OP made it plan that he is not writing in his native language probably better to drop it. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/15 "2011-01-18T00:58:43Z")
The Kardashians. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/16 "2011-01-18T01:26:15Z")
> [@rolandgunslinger](#): > > Buffy the vampire slayer. _bites his knuckles and tries not to reply_ Have you watched season two! Don’t say anything about BTVS unless you’ve watched season two. Season one doesn’t count, although it did have some decent episodes season two is the season that the show should be judged on. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/17 "2011-01-18T01:38:41Z")
I can’t tell if you’re really a Buffy fan or just doing a spot-on parody. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/18 "2011-01-18T01:43:15Z")
Poe’s Law as applied to criticism of TV shows, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/19 "2011-01-18T02:35:03Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Look at all movies before Citizen Kane. Look at all movies after. Not only is it a masterpiece it was revolutionary. Any movie that is more than a couple years old needs to been seen in context. If this were a thread for debating the merits, I’d perhaps care enough to discuss it. ---
**Author:** ![kapri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4491bb/32.png) [@kapri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kapri)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925/20 "2011-01-18T02:42:50Z")
Why people like \*Black Swan. \*Intelligent, mature people, I mean. My 16-year-old nephew liked it, but that’s different. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-i-still-dont-get/567925.md?page=2)